I’m not sure the current mix, but when it opened 2/3rds of the trips had a redeye, and they weren’t even all first or last day. A lot were on day 2, then the 11
hour day sleep, etc. Awful trips that were so bad, I know quite a few people who went back to commuting.

 

Sounds fatiguing…

 

Have March class dates dropped yet?

 

yes March 3 notices just went out

 

Thanks to all who replied about LAS.

How about Guam? My parents live out there and would like to try that base out when I can. Good flying? How long to hold? Pilot culture out there?

Understand it used to be senior, just curious to know what it is these days

 

Will take a few vacancies to hold but under a year. It's trended somewhat Junior. About a year ago a couple BI classes were offered GUM. Tokyo and PI turns, Mongolia, which is a layover, the Island Hopper. To me a lot of the stuff looks pretty tiring and repetitive. I've never done it, but I've been told a lot of people really enjoy the flying, just doesn't look like my cup of tea. It's relatively easy. A lot of 60+ hour layovers in HNL at the front of back of an Island Hopper, that's the vast majorly of layovers in the bid pack but a few around the islands here and there.

One thing for sure though is this, and ive heard this 100 times over. The pilots all love it out there. However it's extremely strenuous on alot of marriages. Schools I've heard are horrendous and for many people when support is many thousands of miles away it can be tough. But if your parents are there it can make life easier.

 

Dude, he’s moving into his parents basement. No marriage to destroy.

 

Junior guys get a lot of redeye turns, and it’s worse during the winter (different trip pairings). Most layovers will be in Cebu, and not a big variety of trips. The island hopper with the HNL layover goes very senior. But with all that being said, the trips are efficient, more days off than stateside, can be an IRO long enough to get sent to TK for landings, and the travel is great. Living in Guam is much slower paced and laid back, people are nice.. it’s just small and a little run down. Passengers love taking pictures with you, FAs & gate agents are best in the industry, and it’s common to have lots of pilots get together for fun activities on the regular.

 

if youre single and in your 20's-30's GUM would be an amazing experience. if my company had a hub there id bid it in a heartbeat. great food, friendly people, little to nonexistent crime, and easy to find tight knit community among many other reasons. dont regret choosing the path I did but GUM base does sometimes make me think of the what if. As others have mentioned, would not recommend staying there past the family starting stage of life

 

If the schedules had more Japanese, Taiwanese overnights I'd lust more after it, possible if it were more commutable. (I'd commute from Japan not mainland US)

To each their own. What I do know is most people there like it and the pilot group is very close. I tend to be more of a slam clicker, so I don't know if the other pilots in my domecile being my social circle is maybe for me....but it clearly can be for some.

From what I understand: Very limited food and very high prices to due to heavy imports.

Limited entertainment/cultural options

I'm not familiar but I would imagine local hots would tend to leave the island as quickly as they can, so not a real good "Singles scene" or whatever we call it these days.


Extremely slow shipping and receiving: (a concern for 20-30 somethings nowadays as there tends to be more of a "order it off of amazon" lifestyle.

Very inefficient and corrupt local officials who embezzle all the money and divert all resources away from schools.......which YES really suck.