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03-12-2018 | 03:55 AM
#22
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Perhaps you should tell that to Howard, Scott, and Oscar because that is not what they are telling new captains that attend the "Charm School" in Chicago. They are all on message saying, they intend to lead the industry with a new style of negotiating and getting a contract done early.
03-12-2018 | 04:00 AM
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Perhaps you should tell that to Howard, Scott, and Oscar because that is not what they are telling new captains that attend the "Charm School" in Chicago. They are all on message saying, they intend to lead the industry with a new style of negotiating and getting a contract done early.
Everything they said is true ... All we have to do is give them what they want for a few quid.
03-12-2018 | 04:01 AM
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Perhaps you should tell that to Howard, Scott, and Oscar because that is not what they are telling new captains that attend the "Charm School" in Chicago. They are all on message saying, they intend to lead the industry with a new style of negotiating and getting a contract done early.
I hope you guys get a quality deal done soon. It will really set the bar for AA and DL to get some nice gains.
03-13-2018 | 08:42 AM
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Go back and read about the "Blue Skies" contract in 1981.
Also read about the UAL ESOP and how it ended.
Basically, never forget management do not fly airplanes for their pay and glory.
As far as "negotiating in public" goes, it never seems to really work the way they think it will. What they need to do is take some lessons from the social media President we have these days.
Maybe SK needs to start "tweeting" or using Facebook a bit more.
03-13-2018 | 01:07 PM
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Perhaps you should tell that to Howard, Scott, and Oscar because that is not what they are telling new captains that attend the "Charm School" in Chicago. They are all on message saying, they intend to lead the industry with a new style of negotiating and getting a contract done early.
Long story short, we have seen this before. I'll believe this group is different when the actual results demonstrate a difference, not just the talking points.
As always, my Union speaks for me. And in the mean time, nothing to see here!
03-13-2018 | 01:22 PM
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If this isn't a non-thread....ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz.........
Airline labor history has proven that in spite of the players at some point push will likely come to shove. I'll keep my eyes open and wait to see if the newest CB's are any different from the last CB's and I'll adjust my expectations accordingly. Benefit of the doubt and all that.
"On Top, On Time"
Till then Amigos.
Airline labor history has proven that in spite of the players at some point push will likely come to shove. I'll keep my eyes open and wait to see if the newest CB's are any different from the last CB's and I'll adjust my expectations accordingly. Benefit of the doubt and all that.
"On Top, On Time"
Till then Amigos.
03-13-2018 | 03:06 PM
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Perhaps you should tell that to Howard, Scott, and Oscar because that is not what they are telling new captains that attend the "Charm School" in Chicago. They are all on message saying, they intend to lead the industry with a new style of negotiating and getting a contract done early.
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