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Old 03-23-2018, 07:33 AM
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Hey all, not UA crew, but I saw this and I am speechless.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...ght/452168002/

Apparently UA gave a $10,000 travel voucher who got bumped off a flight because on an INOP seat. Unreal.

I honestly feel bad for you guys, I feel like UA got the spotlight of bad PR glued onto them when in reality UA hasn't been guilty of anything different from what the entire industry practices. I don't understand how it can be a sustainable business model to hand out a travel voucher like that. It would be a lie saying I don't feel some sort of pressure dealing with PAX on my own flights now a days because of this consumer "victim" behavior. I hope this trend changes in the future for all of us.
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:39 AM
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Hey all, not UA crew, but I saw this and I am speechless.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...ght/452168002/

Apparently UA gave a $10,000 travel voucher who got bumped off a flight because on an INOP seat. Unreal.

I honestly feel bad for you guys, I feel like UA got the spotlight of bad PR glued onto them when in reality UA hasn't been guilty of anything different from what the entire industry practices. I don't understand how it can be a sustainable business model to hand out a travel voucher like that. It would be a lie saying I don't feel some sort of pressure dealing with PAX on my own flights now a days because of this consumer "victim" behavior. I hope this trend changes in the future for all of us.
It’s a voucher, not cash. If I give you a $10k voucher to use on a $10k seat that was going to leave empty anyway, then it hasn’t cost me anything. The press of it however is worth way more than $10k. Smart move.
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It’s a voucher, not cash. If I give you a $10k voucher to use on a $10k seat that was going to leave empty anyway, then it hasn’t cost me anything.
I mean I can understand that being preferable to the alternative (cash). There still is some opportunity cost involved though, especially if that seat wasn't going to leave empty. Are customers allowed to use the voucher for multiple flights?
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Originally Posted by Newstick189 View Post
I mean I can understand that being preferable to the alternative (cash). There still is some opportunity cost involved though, especially if that seat wasn't going to leave empty. Are customers allowed to use the voucher for multiple flights?
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I mean I can understand that being preferable to the alternative (cash). There still is some opportunity cost involved though, especially if that seat wasn't going to leave empty. Are customers allowed to use the voucher for multiple flights?
Who knows? Who cares? I’m sure United has a department full of people whose mission is to weigh the cost/benefit of these decisions and implement them.

I’m a pilot. I have no control of these issues or how the press may or may not cover them. All I can do is try to ensure that my flights are safe, comfortable, on-time, and efficient. If we do our job well and all our other work groups pull in the same direction, this company will continue to improve. The media spotlight will eventually move on to the next outrage when the shock value of its current obsession diminishes.

In the meantime, Duke’s has a great happy hour and a spectacular view of the sunset.
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Who knows? Who cares? I’m sure United has a department full of people whose mission is to weigh the cost/benefit of these decisions and implement them.

I’m a pilot. I have no control of these issues or how the press may or may not cover them. All I can do is try to ensure that my flights are safe, comfortable, on-time, and efficient. If we do our job well and all our other work groups pull in the same direction, this company will continue to improve. The media spotlight will eventually move on to the next outrage when the shock value of its current obsession diminishes.

In the meantime, Duke’s has a great happy hour and a spectacular view of the sunset.
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I know they changed it to something else recently but it just doesn’t stick in my brain like SCOE.
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I know they changed it to something else recently but it just doesn’t stick in my brain like SCOE.
They changed it twice
The first was SCaRe E
And now SCareD E
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They changed it twice
The first was SCaRe E
And now SCareD E
In my 23 years here, these goofy corporate acronyms come and go all the time. They have zero, zip, zilch, nada impact on how I operate the jet. Always gonna be the safest possible operation. The rest is governed by the ALPA code of ethics. The corporate phrase of the week is just background noise.

I once had an assistant chief pilot bring pizza to the cockpit cuz we met the “ hub goals”. I asked her what they were, and she was flabbergasted that I didn’t know. I simply said I do my job the same regardless, but if doing so gets me pizza, thank you very much! Hell, I have enough to read keeping up with the safety related changes that we’re currently implementing. I don’t care to try to incorporate non essential company drivel into my reading list.
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Now everyone is going to want significantly more "compensation" for giving up their seat...

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