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Old 07-17-2018 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by VnavPath
AA went to it fairly recently and even the senior guys there say it's better then what they had before (seniority system).
Really? A senior guy says it's better? I find that hard to believe.
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Old 07-17-2018 | 07:05 AM
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If it’s reserved, how do we keep scabs from reserving it? I think reserving it could have some unintended consequences.
I showed up at a commute yesterday at Delta because it was ridiculously overbooked with tons of nonrevs and Jumpseat riders on us. There was a United guy there already....slick tie CA. I told him I didn’t even try to go to our gates because of the loads and came straight to Delta and he said, “Oh, I don’t commute on the airbus.” I asked him and he confirmed that he is LCAL. Didn’t seem to make sense since the only other option on that route is a 737, a less comfortable jumpseat with no room for your bags. Then I put 2 and 2 together and figured out why. I pulled out my list and he is on it. So yes, you LUAL guys are doing a great job with scabs...so much so that this guy won’t even attempt to ride with you. Hilarious.
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Old 07-17-2018 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sydney5316
Really? A senior guy says it's better? I find that hard to believe.
Think he meant senior bottom 1/4 guys.
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Old 07-17-2018 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Hilltopper89
I showed up at a commute yesterday at Delta because it was ridiculously overbooked with tons of nonrevs and Jumpseat riders on us. There was a United guy there already....slick tie CA. I told him I didn’t even try to go to our gates because of the loads and came straight to Delta and he said, “Oh, I don’t commute on the airbus.” I asked him and he confirmed that he is LCAL. Didn’t seem to make sense since the only other option on that route is a 737, a less comfortable jumpseat with no room for your bags. Then I put 2 and 2 together and figured out why. I pulled out my list and he is on it. So yes, you LUAL guys are doing a great job with scabs...so much so that this guy won’t even attempt to ride with you. Hilarious.
Says a lot more about the Guppy fleet.
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Old 07-17-2018 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Says a lot more about the Guppy fleet.
I wouldn’t go that far. I know plenty of guys who hate scabs on both sides. But LUAL guys are notorious in their hatred.
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Old 07-17-2018 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Hilltopper89
I wouldn’t go that far. I know plenty of guys who hate scabs on both sides. But LUAL guys are notorious in their hatred.
Agree, however I’ve had more captains let them ride then have rejected them. Some very vocal scab haters ultimately allowed one to ride. Makes for an easy flight from my end. Stare straight ahead and checklist when told.
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Old 07-17-2018 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Agree, however I’ve had more captains let them ride then have rejected them. Some very vocal scab haters ultimately allowed one to ride. Makes for an easy flight from my end. Stare straight ahead and checklist when told.
I flew with an Eastern scab last month. I made a point of reading the EAL chapter in Flying the Line Vol 2 in front of him at altitude.
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Old 07-17-2018 | 10:43 AM
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In a previous life I was able to deny the JS to two EAL scabs. It can be done, but Captains need to make the effort to look at the list. Now as an FO, I will make it if the Captain doesn’t.

EA strikers earned more walking the line than I did as a Shorts F/O while gladly paying the strike assessment. I’d do it all over again if necessary.
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Old 07-18-2018 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SUX4U
I would love to know how many of our captains have actually denied a scab the jumpseat over the past 5 years. I’m thinking scabs are likely riding trouble free 95% of the time.

I agree with this , I rode on the air bus with a scab few months back . Both of us on the jump seats . She listed mins prior to the flight and showed up . Wasn’t till nearly half way through the flight I realized she was most likely the scab I’ve been told about commuting out of my commute city.

If I had to guess the pilots operating were unaware of her being a scab.
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Old 07-18-2018 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Agree, however I’ve had more captains let them ride then have rejected them. Some very vocal scab haters ultimately allowed one to ride. Makes for an easy flight from my end. Stare straight ahead and checklist when told.
Yep, lots of talk not much action.
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