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Old 07-15-2018, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by baseball View Post
I agree. But this is an issue of education and peer pressure......As pilots and as senior Captains we can do more to politely apply peer pressure so that the desired
I love the world we live in now. Peer pressure, public shaming, etc. Oh, I need to " educate" you. Don't like what's going on, through a hissy fit and cry like a little...

Never mind....
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Old 07-16-2018, 03:58 AM
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I love the world we live in now. Peer pressure, public shaming, etc. Oh, I need to " educate" you. Don't like what's going on, through a hissy fit and cry like a little...

Never mind....
Sad but true...
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Old 07-16-2018, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv View Post
Yes, and it doesn't take the Captain out of anything, he ultimately has the last say, but probably should have some justification for punting the proactive pilot in favor of the walked-up entitled one (and I'm generally senior enough to get the seat), but allowing people to reserve the JS allows for much more predictability in everyone's plans.
Moot point. If it’s reserved, the more senior types won’t even bother showing up. Captain takes the one and only guy and that’s only if he bothers to show up.

Hopefully will never happen over here.
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Old 07-16-2018, 07:16 PM
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So, you have 4 guys all going to work.. who gets the jumpseat?


The one that reserved it


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Old 07-16-2018, 07:45 PM
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There's a reason virtually all of our peer airlines (DL, AA, FDX, UPS, etc) all use a reservation system for the Jumpseat now. It's just better, period. AA went to it fairly recently and even the senior guys there say it's better then what they had before (seniority system), I commute on them often and thats the overwhelming sentiment. A lot less confusion and uncertainty at the gate and once its yours its yours, no risk of getting bumped at all. In fact their (AA) commuter policy states that if you are number 1 for the JS then all you need is that one flight. That's because it's confirmed seat, pretty nice huh? Anyway, perhaps a hybrid system could work here, such as seniority gets you the Jumpseat until 24hrs prior then at that point if its still open it becomes first come first serve reservation. That would allow senior guys to exercise seniority and everyone else to have some transparency and predictably in their commuting lives.
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Old 07-16-2018, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by VnavPath View Post
There's a reason virtually all of our peer airlines (DL, AA, FDX, UPS, etc) all use a reservation system for the Jumpseat now. It's just better, period. AA went to it fairly recently and even the senior guys there say it's better then what they had before (seniority system), I commute on them often and thats the overwhelming sentiment. A lot less confusion and uncertainty at the gate and once its yours its yours, no risk of getting bumped at all. In fact their (AA) commuter policy states that if you are number 1 for the JS then all you need is that one flight. That's because it's confirmed seat, pretty nice huh? Anyway, perhaps a hybrid system could work here, such as seniority gets you the Jumpseat until 24hrs prior then at that point if its still open it becomes first come first serve reservation. That would allow senior guys to exercise seniority and everyone else to have some transparency and predictably in their commuting lives.
I say the most senior guy gets to “reserve” the jumpseat all the way up to pushback.😉
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Old 07-16-2018, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ron kent View Post
I say the most senior guy gets to “reserve” the jumpseat all the way up to pushback.😉
Can I get an amen?! If the boarding door is open, so is the JS.
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Old 07-17-2018, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ron kent View Post
I say the most senior guy gets to “reserve” the jumpseat all the way up to pushback.😉
Yup, agree. Yet another scheme to skip dues paying, IMO.
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Old 07-17-2018, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ron kent View Post
I say the most senior guy gets to “reserve” the jumpseat all the way up to pushback.😉
If it’s reserved, how do we keep scabs from reserving it? I think reserving it could have some unintended consequences.
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Old 07-17-2018, 06:54 AM
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If it’s reserved, how do we keep scabs from reserving it? I think reserving it could have some unintended consequences.
I would love to know how many of our captains have actually denied a scab the jumpseat over the past 5 years. I’m thinking scabs are likely riding trouble free 95% of the time.
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