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07-06-2018, 08:43 AM
#13
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
Lunchlady Doris said during this scene: “more testicles means more iron!!” ������
07-06-2018, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingMaryJane
"some junior puke"????? FOR REAL??? Thats how you look at your fellow pilots? its nice to know that you are so much better than someone junior to you... just call them scum! jeeeezz!
07-06-2018, 02:07 PM
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FEDEX also has stipends for foreign domiciles. But not for US domiciles. Primarily for education, as in private schools. Guam would qualify. San Francisco would not. And yes, Guam is a US Territory. But it's not a state like California and at 4600 miles from the US mainland, not reasonably commutable. That's why it has it's own LOA, which btw exempts it from some of our work rules. A SFO stipend ain't gonna happen. But hey, its a forum, pontificate away. 
07-06-2018, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by guppie
FEDEX also has stipends for foreign domiciles. But not for US domiciles. Primarily for education, as in private schools. Guam would qualify. San Francisco would not. And yes, Guam is a US Territory. But it's not a state like California and at 4600 miles from the US mainland, not reasonably commutable. That's why it has it's own LOA, which btw exempts it from some of our work rules. A SFO stipend ain't gonna happen. But hey, its a forum, pontificate away.
07-06-2018, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
From my far away junior puke perch, it's actually worse than that. It's not "giving up the jumpseat". Its the Captain assigning the jumpseat to a specific pilot based upon his belief that a guys need to get to work outweighs whatever other reason another pilot may have for requesting the seat.
Absolutely, the JS belongs to the Captain. But adding a litmus test like this to see who gets it is nonsense. It will take about ten minutes before every request to ride will sound like this, "Hi Captain, this is my last shot to get to Houston for work. May I please ride your jumpseat?"
What's the next step? "OK, well I'll need to see your trip pairing because the other guy is going to work as well" Soon everyone will be going to work, their wedding or funeral and it will be the Captains job to determine merit and perceived rank. I'd guess that there are only a handful of guys out there who would like to add that responsibility to their workload.
A pilot of any seniority who voluntarily offers up his shot at the JS so that another guy can get to work is a nice guy and should be commended, especially if he is the more senior party. But the Captain assigning him to do so and abrogating seniority is out of bounds.
WRT to GUM, I don't know if the union decided that GUM pilots should get an extra stipend and then bargained for it, or the company offered it up out of need. I suspect that arrangement was in place prior to the merger, but I don't know. It seems like a fair and reasonable deal given the isolation and costs involved in living there. The SFO guys opining for the same are smoking weed.
And, "junior puke" is a term of endearment. Kind of like "junior maggot". They've been around for decades as well and are part of our wonderful hazing process.
Man, I guess that some of us really aren't in Kansas anymore.
Absolutely, the JS belongs to the Captain. But adding a litmus test like this to see who gets it is nonsense. It will take about ten minutes before every request to ride will sound like this, "Hi Captain, this is my last shot to get to Houston for work. May I please ride your jumpseat?"
What's the next step? "OK, well I'll need to see your trip pairing because the other guy is going to work as well" Soon everyone will be going to work, their wedding or funeral and it will be the Captains job to determine merit and perceived rank. I'd guess that there are only a handful of guys out there who would like to add that responsibility to their workload.
A pilot of any seniority who voluntarily offers up his shot at the JS so that another guy can get to work is a nice guy and should be commended, especially if he is the more senior party. But the Captain assigning him to do so and abrogating seniority is out of bounds.
WRT to GUM, I don't know if the union decided that GUM pilots should get an extra stipend and then bargained for it, or the company offered it up out of need. I suspect that arrangement was in place prior to the merger, but I don't know. It seems like a fair and reasonable deal given the isolation and costs involved in living there. The SFO guys opining for the same are smoking weed.
And, "junior puke" is a term of endearment. Kind of like "junior maggot". They've been around for decades as well and are part of our wonderful hazing process.
Man, I guess that some of us really aren't in Kansas anymore.
07-08-2018, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by cal73
Couldnt agree more. The 2nd jumpseat thread got a little sideways. We don't want to go down the rabbit hole of determining "need" for the jumpseat. This isn't atlas shrugged. Its a seniority thing.
I'll say that being able to list for a jumpseat and it's essentially a confirmed seat (FAA excepted) sure makes a massive difference in my QOL regardless of why I'm using it. I know there's a certain point where you probably never have anyone senior to you who shows up for it, but it really does make travel planning easier.
