An additional August New Hire class
07-12-2018, 02:04 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Thunder1
I believe pilots will also receive longevity credit for time on bypass also -- therefore being able to credit up to 10 years longevity for pay and vacation while on furlough and bypass. Anyone know the details on this?
They return as active pilots with their seniority, pay longevity, and vacation allocation as if they were never gone. They have also been treated as active employees for pass benefits the entire time so that does not change.
FWIW, the pilots that remain out can all hold widebody FO and many, if not all, can hold narrowbody CA. It is for this reason that the ones that really want to return probably already have---with some exceptions naturally.
Originally Posted by Flytolive
7-F SENIORITY A Pilot shall maintain his relative position on the Seniority List for all time on furlough and recall bypass provided that the continuous period of furlough and recall bypass shall not exceed ten (10) years. Once such a continuous period exceeds ten (10) years, a Pilot shall forfeit all recall rights and his name shall be removed from the Seniority List. Pilots shall receive longevity credit for all time spent on furlough.
So don't wait too long.
So don't wait too long.
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07-12-2018, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
That is correct.
They return as active pilots with their seniority, pay longevity, and vacation allocation as if they were never gone. They have also been treated as active employees for pass benefits the entire time so that does not change.
FWIW, the pilots that remain out can all hold widebody FO and many, if not all, can hold narrowbody CA. It is for this reason that the ones that really want to return probably already have---with some exceptions naturally.
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They return as active pilots with their seniority, pay longevity, and vacation allocation as if they were never gone. They have also been treated as active employees for pass benefits the entire time so that does not change.
FWIW, the pilots that remain out can all hold widebody FO and many, if not all, can hold narrowbody CA. It is for this reason that the ones that really want to return probably already have---with some exceptions naturally.
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07-12-2018, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Wonder why the CAL furloughees weren’t given the same privileges? I’m pretty sure I already know the answer but still can’t fathom why our Union hasn’t addressed this as aggressively as they have with other L-UAL issues?
The CAL recalls occurred PRIOR to the UPA under the CAL contract. By the time the UPA was in force all the CAL furloughees had been recalled and CAL did not have the 10-year bypass.
So in summary, it was all LUAL's fault.
07-12-2018, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
That's pretty easy to answer and a CAL issue.
The CAL recalls occurred PRIOR to the UPA under the CAL contract. By the time the UPA was in force all the CAL furloughees had been recalled and CAL did not have the 10-year bypass.
So in summary, it was all LUAL's fault.
The CAL recalls occurred PRIOR to the UPA under the CAL contract. By the time the UPA was in force all the CAL furloughees had been recalled and CAL did not have the 10-year bypass.
So in summary, it was all LUAL's fault.
07-12-2018, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Not at all L-UAL’s fault at all but something that should be corrected and not ignored.
There are a small subset of LCAL pilots that do not have their DOH for travel as a result of the pre-merger CAL policy and I agree that needs to be corrected.
In fact, it's B.S. that we are even talking about this is 2018. This should have been fixed years ago.
07-13-2018, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Sorry, didn’t mean to turn this in the wrong direction. Glad to hear about additional classes and new hires!
Great news that United is hiring and FRs are coming back.
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