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Old 08-04-2018 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
Would you like to show me where I did this? Because I went back and read all of my posts on this thread and came up bupkis.

Nice rants though.
I was going to point that out but Zenofin is on a mission. He don’t need no stinking facts.
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Old 08-04-2018 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Zenofzin
His stance was he would not extend by even a minute, not due to fatigue or safety, but to get back at the company, to get a free hotel, and extra pay for the next day, to his chagrin we took off two minutes before our cco time and he sat like a little b#$tch the whole way back to EWR. ....
In all professions there will be people who hold "grudges" and whom harbor anger and resentment to how they were treated.

I get it. But, here's the deal. If we haven't walked in that persons shoes we can't really judge that person. In all professions there are hurt feelings over one thing or another. Sometimes these feelings can last a few months, a few years, or will linger the rest of their working career.

It was far from wrong when management held grudges. Heck, that's what got the IACP on property at CAL in the first place. When McCoy and Abbot made it personal and personally attacked, targeted, disciplined, and terminated pilots the union was born. Those pilots adversely affected still hold grudges, and I don't blame them.

With time, feelings of mis-treatment and resentment fade. I would predict that we will see less of this in the future, the farther we get away from those dark years, the CAL strike, the UAL strike, age 65, POS 02, the lost decade, etc.

Most pilots have something they hold on to. Let me share with you something that Fred Abbot told me once. He said, after a grievance hearing in which I lost....."I hope you don't come away with the feeling that you need to get even, or get back at the company as a result of the outcome of this case." My reply. "Fred, I never get even, and even if I felt that way, I would keep it to myself."

There is a saying. Time heals all wounds. I predict the things you speak of will happen more infrequently with the passage of more time. I no longer carry my Fred Abbot voodoo doll and stick pins, so I guess there's hope for all of us.
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Old 08-04-2018 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
I no longer carry my Fred Abbot voodoo doll and stick pins, so I guess there's hope for all of us.
I don’t either, I went to Polynesia and threw it in a volcano....all good now.
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Old 08-04-2018 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
I no longer carry my Fred Abbot voodoo doll and stick pins, so I guess there's hope for all of us.
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
I don’t either, I went to Polynesia and threw it in a volcano....all good now.
Oops, I was wrong... we have a new champion!
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Old 08-05-2018 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BMEP100
Btw, just so you know, we can't extend FAR limits.
Btw, just so you know, your contractual and FAR limits are determined prior to the start of the duty period.

The “extension” is literally an extension to the FAR limit.
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Old 08-05-2018 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Really
I'm pretty sure the data shows incidents/accidents happen on the first leg of the pairing/ID. Anyways, back to trolling!
With all that red highlighting you missed the word disproportate.

I completely agree that the highest risk flights are the first flight of the day with the CA as PF.
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Old 08-05-2018 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Really
I'm pretty sure the data shows incidents/accidents happen on the first leg of the pairing/ID. Anyways, back to trolling!
I asked a ski instructor why accidents always happen on the last run of the day. He said that it just becomes the last run.
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