LCC failing?
10-26-2018, 08:31 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by untied
Tell that to my F/O's.
They all seem to be buying $750,000 houses and LOTS of expensive toys!
They all seem to be buying $750,000 houses and LOTS of expensive toys!
10-27-2018, 05:57 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
911 was not the main issue back then. Airline yields crashed 4 months before 911. It was a economic event. 911 in fact gave airlines a opportunity to plead poverty due to terrorism and get bailouts when 90% of it was a economic issue. The spring of 2001 saw a drop in yields never before seen.
Rather touchy subject around here
10-27-2018, 07:26 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by ItnStln
Is that book worth reading?
https://www.amazon.com/Hard-Landing-.../dp/0812928350
Hard for me to say as I read it roughly 20 years ago. From what I recall, the head guy (Harding Lawrence ??) was a bit of a genius and had some great ideas. Unfortunately mid level management stunk and the company was unable to fully execute the simple blocking and tackling required to move the company fast enough to deal with the withering effects deregulation was having on the industry.
You know, properly staff, cater, deal with bags, have crews able to park when you pull up to the gate....
Meanwhile Bob Crandall was doing everything in his power, legal and illegal, to attack Braniff in Dallas. Its amazing that he kept his job given his attempts at price fixing.
The airline business must be rocket science.
10-27-2018, 07:34 AM
#34
ILL BEE DAT
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Originally Posted by oldmako
I don't recall it as being as good as Hard Landing,
https://www.amazon.com/Hard-Landing-.../dp/0812928350
Hard for me to say as I read it roughly 20 years ago. From what I recall, the head guy (Harding Lawrence ??) was a bit of a genius and had some great ideas. Unfortunately mid level management stunk and the company was unable to fully execute the simple blocking and tackling required to move the company fast enough to deal with the withering effects deregulation was having on the industry.
You know, properly staff, cater, deal with bags, have crews able to park when you pull up to the gate....
Meanwhile Bob Crandall was doing everything in his power, legal and illegal, to attack Braniff in Dallas. Its amazing that he kept his job given his attempts at price fixing.
The airline business must be rocket science.
https://www.amazon.com/Hard-Landing-.../dp/0812928350
Hard for me to say as I read it roughly 20 years ago. From what I recall, the head guy (Harding Lawrence ??) was a bit of a genius and had some great ideas. Unfortunately mid level management stunk and the company was unable to fully execute the simple blocking and tackling required to move the company fast enough to deal with the withering effects deregulation was having on the industry.
You know, properly staff, cater, deal with bags, have crews able to park when you pull up to the gate....
Meanwhile Bob Crandall was doing everything in his power, legal and illegal, to attack Braniff in Dallas. Its amazing that he kept his job given his attempts at price fixing.
The airline business must be rocket science.
Out of curiosity do you have any other good reads? I used to have a list but I’ve lost it in most of my computer moves!
10-27-2018, 09:04 AM
#35
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10-27-2018, 09:43 AM
#38
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Originally Posted by oldmako
I don't recall it as being as good as Hard Landing,
https://www.amazon.com/Hard-Landing-.../dp/0812928350
Hard for me to say as I read it roughly 20 years ago. From what I recall, the head guy (Harding Lawrence ??) was a bit of a genius and had some great ideas. Unfortunately mid level management stunk and the company was unable to fully execute the simple blocking and tackling required to move the company fast enough to deal with the withering effects deregulation was having on the industry.
You know, properly staff, cater, deal with bags, have crews able to park when you pull up to the gate....
Meanwhile Bob Crandall was doing everything in his power, legal and illegal, to attack Braniff in Dallas. Its amazing that he kept his job given his attempts at price fixing.
The airline business must be rocket science.
https://www.amazon.com/Hard-Landing-.../dp/0812928350
Hard for me to say as I read it roughly 20 years ago. From what I recall, the head guy (Harding Lawrence ??) was a bit of a genius and had some great ideas. Unfortunately mid level management stunk and the company was unable to fully execute the simple blocking and tackling required to move the company fast enough to deal with the withering effects deregulation was having on the industry.
You know, properly staff, cater, deal with bags, have crews able to park when you pull up to the gate....
Meanwhile Bob Crandall was doing everything in his power, legal and illegal, to attack Braniff in Dallas. Its amazing that he kept his job given his attempts at price fixing.
The airline business must be rocket science.
10-27-2018, 09:44 AM
#39
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Originally Posted by mrmak2
10-27-2018, 10:52 AM
#40
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Originally Posted by ItnStln
Thanks, I'll check it out. I saw another book recommended here and I believe it was about the airline unions. If you recognize it do you know what book it was?
It's free through the ALPA website. Both volumes.
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