Class Dates/CJOs
08-18-2019 | 09:54 AM
#331
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Hello all;
I am a 737 instructor at United's Flight Training Center. I can’t tell you the whole story on class dates and hiring (because I don’t know) but I can tell you what’s going on with our fleet right now.
All the massive fall hiring was planned for the 737 MAX fleet growth on top of our ever rising retirements. You guys of course are aware of the Max situation. We have done a lot of hiring on the 737 in hopes of getting the Max back. Now we are most likely over staffed on the 737 (line pilots and instructors)
Management has told us that they will keep classes going and hire into the 756 and airbus; as to not fall behind on replacing our seniority list.
Our group is optimistic that the Max debacle is starting to show signs of light at the end of the tunnel. That being said it won’t be break neck hiring back on the 737. It will be a slow and metered pace getting our airplanes back on line.
We expect an uptick in hiring with the MAX back and a further increase once our G building is complete. We are getting 3 Max sims and 2 Dreamliner sims in that building with room to grow (we have heard rumors of an additional building on top of that). Not too sure on the timeline on the G building but going to work everyday and seeing the progress it looks pretty close. I think the actual sims will arrive early Q1 2020.
I hope that helps guys and gals; I know it’s not the whole story but that’s what I’ve heard so far.
I am a 737 instructor at United's Flight Training Center. I can’t tell you the whole story on class dates and hiring (because I don’t know) but I can tell you what’s going on with our fleet right now.
All the massive fall hiring was planned for the 737 MAX fleet growth on top of our ever rising retirements. You guys of course are aware of the Max situation. We have done a lot of hiring on the 737 in hopes of getting the Max back. Now we are most likely over staffed on the 737 (line pilots and instructors)
Management has told us that they will keep classes going and hire into the 756 and airbus; as to not fall behind on replacing our seniority list.
Our group is optimistic that the Max debacle is starting to show signs of light at the end of the tunnel. That being said it won’t be break neck hiring back on the 737. It will be a slow and metered pace getting our airplanes back on line.
We expect an uptick in hiring with the MAX back and a further increase once our G building is complete. We are getting 3 Max sims and 2 Dreamliner sims in that building with room to grow (we have heard rumors of an additional building on top of that). Not too sure on the timeline on the G building but going to work everyday and seeing the progress it looks pretty close. I think the actual sims will arrive early Q1 2020.
I hope that helps guys and gals; I know it’s not the whole story but that’s what I’ve heard so far.
08-19-2019 | 02:47 PM
#332
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Thank you very much for the intel! Always great to hear the perspective from inside TK.
Needless to say those of us treading water in the pool are anxious to get started in training, and the wait just seems to drag on. I don't remember the days dragging as bad while waiting to hear if I got a CJO or not; maybe it's worse because when you're flying 135 charter the days drag already and the light at the end of the tunnel can't come soon enough!
08-22-2019 | 07:32 AM
#334
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Just heard from our standards meeting:
*subject to change*
737: currently overstaffed; when we get the Max (possibly Q1 2020) DEN, ORD, LAX will be our 737 growth bases. CLE will shrink with retirements
A320: DCA, EWR SFO growth bases for the Airbus
756: static, 767-400 going to IAH
777: fluid, will see more domestic flying mixed with the 777. EWR and IAH growth
787: EWR shrink and LAX growth.
From my perspective UAL is placing its newest/most efficient aircraft in our more competitive hubs. Hiring will pick back up to 130+/month once we get the Max. Stay tuned...
*subject to change*
737: currently overstaffed; when we get the Max (possibly Q1 2020) DEN, ORD, LAX will be our 737 growth bases. CLE will shrink with retirements
A320: DCA, EWR SFO growth bases for the Airbus
756: static, 767-400 going to IAH
777: fluid, will see more domestic flying mixed with the 777. EWR and IAH growth
787: EWR shrink and LAX growth.
From my perspective UAL is placing its newest/most efficient aircraft in our more competitive hubs. Hiring will pick back up to 130+/month once we get the Max. Stay tuned...
08-22-2019 | 11:57 AM
#336
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From: Captain
Just heard from our standards meeting:
*subject to change*
737: currently overstaffed; when we get the Max (possibly Q1 2020) DEN, ORD, LAX will be our 737 growth bases. CLE will shrink with retirements
A320: DCA, EWR SFO growth bases for the Airbus
756: static, 767-400 going to IAH
777: fluid, will see more domestic flying mixed with the 777. EWR and IAH growth
787: EWR shrink and LAX growth.
From my perspective UAL is placing its newest/most efficient aircraft in our more competitive hubs. Hiring will pick back up to 130+/month once we get the Max. Stay tuned...
*subject to change*
737: currently overstaffed; when we get the Max (possibly Q1 2020) DEN, ORD, LAX will be our 737 growth bases. CLE will shrink with retirements
A320: DCA, EWR SFO growth bases for the Airbus
756: static, 767-400 going to IAH
777: fluid, will see more domestic flying mixed with the 777. EWR and IAH growth
787: EWR shrink and LAX growth.
From my perspective UAL is placing its newest/most efficient aircraft in our more competitive hubs. Hiring will pick back up to 130+/month once we get the Max. Stay tuned...
11 more 787-10 but haven’t been announced yet for a total of 75 787s
4 more 777-3 not announced either for a total of 26 773s and 96 altogether 777s
08-26-2019 | 05:16 PM
#340
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If you bid it in intial, you can bid out of it at the next vacancy as long as you don’t elect second year pay or paid move.
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