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Originally Posted by C11DCA (Post 2788681)

And that’s what UAL does too. Two crews for same duty period Caribbean turns.

For example:

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2788907)

All you need is a foam foot rest and a standard first class seat and your good to go. Costs about 50 bucks for the footrest. Actually you don’t even need the first class seat. A coach seat modified to recline 40 degrees is legal as well as a cockpit jumpseat.

) Class 3 Rest Facility. A class 3 rest facility is a seat in an aircraft cabin or flight deck that reclines at least 40 degrees. It provides leg and foot support (§ 117.3, TNO Report recommendation paragraph 5.2.5).

A standard first class seat is not good to go. It requires modification in order to comply with the FAR for an acceptable class 3.

UAL spent months getting a subset of Guam 737’s configured and certified for the island hopper. 40 degrees of recline eliminates the row behind it, unless you shift how the seats are laid out. Basically think of the old first or business class recliners (before lay flat was the norm) as the minimum of what’s acceptable.

And again no coach seat as a rest seat for augmented flights.

5-J-4 Seats comparable to Economy or Economy Plus are not acceptable for crew rest.

How many narrowbody jumpseats can recline 40 degrees? :confused:

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Originally Posted by sweptback (Post 2789125)

I’m not sure why sailingfun needs to come in here extolling the virtues of Delta’s work rules. He or she should be cheering for us to do well in our section 6 so they have a target to match.

Or you know, at least get domestic crew meals, guaranteed Economy Plus for DH, middle seat pay, RHA VEBA, 117 extension pay, new hire hotels and guarantee, or any of the things that add value to our operation every day.

At least if they fixed their international JV problem they could have routes more than 12 hours to use two captains on.

He does have great info about how delta operates. It is definitely a positive spin, and most if the time he does not express his views very eloquently. We have major QOL issues as you stated above that need to be addressed and of course our scope and JV language. I hope you guys have a huge win, because this will help the delta pilots and push the industry ahead.

I’d prefer the cash over the VEBA ala Delta as well. At least give us a choice and not make it mandatory.

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Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 2789411)

I’d prefer the cash over the VEBA ala Delta as well. At least give us a choice and not make it mandatory.

There is no such thing as “not mandatory”. All get or none.

You must love throwing money away if you’d like to pay your top rate tax on the extra money.

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Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 2789411)

I’d prefer the cash over the VEBA ala Delta as well. At least give us a choice and not make it mandatory.

A recent R&I seminar said that were looking at that.

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Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 2789751)

A recent R&I seminar said that were looking at that.

Did that part of the tax code change with the new tax law?

Q: Why are the $1.00 per hour contributions mandatory?
A: If participation was voluntary, or the pilot had the right to opt out, the IRS would view the contribution as an elective employee contribution, and the IRS does not permit elective employee contributions to be made to health reimbursement arrangements.

https://crewroom.alpa.org/ual/Deskto...cumentID=49609

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Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 2789692)

There is no such thing as “not mandatory”. All get or none.

You must love throwing money away if you’d like to pay your top rate tax on the extra money.

Not when my VEBA is already well funded at $100,000+.

VEBA's great to a point but I want to be able to choose between putting more in or getting it in cash.

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Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 2789853)

Not when my VEBA is already well funded at $100,000+.

VEBA's great to a point but I want to be able to choose between putting more in or getting it in cash.

So you plan to only live for 5 yrs in retirement and have no eligible dependents? That is how long 100k lasts for the average retiree.

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Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 2789962)

So you plan to only live for 5 yrs in retirement and have no eligible dependents? That is how long 100k lasts for the average retiree.

+1. I’ve read several places that the number for a couple is $250,000 set aside for medical expenses in retirement.

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Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 2789962)

So you plan to only live for 5 yrs in retirement and have no eligible dependents? That is how long 100k lasts for the average retiree.

I'd like to see your math and variances on that one considering the VEBA is medical and medical related expenses only. Throw in many different scenarios, to include TRICARE, and your "average retiree" comment doesn't seem so average. 100k seems a good spot for some as a singular medical slush fund.