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Shrek 05-21-2022 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Knotcher (Post 3427362)
Does your "imperial" evidence show those were all 60-65 year olds? (and I am against raising it btw)

Bwahahah damn autocorrect strikes again…….

I needed that laugh today - thanks lmao 🤣

Shrek 05-21-2022 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by guppie (Post 3427470)
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sailingfun 05-22-2022 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by Pogey Bait (Post 2953681)
I’m at DL, never heard a peep of this.

Thats because the OP is blowing it all out of proportion. Any pilot can introduce a resolution at a LEC meeting. Getting anyone to vote for it is another issue. They got absolutely zero traction.

Aviatorr 05-22-2022 08:04 AM

Kirby on CNBC last week even said he didn’t think age 67 was worth it. He said that the pilots who are 64 here and aren’t on medical leave or calling in sick per day is about 34%. He said the older the pilot the less efficient they are to the company and therefore age 67 would just provide 2 more years of 34% availability for those pilots. I tend to agree with him it does nothing to solve the perceived “pilot shortage”

oldmako 05-22-2022 08:26 AM

Anyone over 63 who is not setting fire to their sick bank is either an idiot or sycophantic Marvin of the first order. Yo, Scott...the old guys call in sick because you leave them NO choice. Kirby is just stroking the press for sympathy. I have to believe that he's smarter than that. Had I not bolted early there is no way I'd leave a dime on the table. You know the old saw from Bethune about never stealing a buck from a pilot? Well, for a HUGE chunk of us that wasn't true....Mother U got the upper hand in the grand larceny department. By a factor of ten.

Sick leave. It's YOURS, not theirs. Use it or lose it.

Hedley 05-22-2022 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 3427684)
Anyone over 63 who is not setting fire to their sick bank is either an idiot or sycophantic Marvin of the first order.

….. or both at the same time. Prior to retirement sick leave pays 100%, after retirement it is just a sad reminder of the days that you worked for free. I’ll never understand why anyone would fly a trip when they could be getting paid to not work.

TFAYD 05-22-2022 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Aviatorr (Post 3427672)
Kirby on CNBC last week even said he didn’t think age 67 was worth it. He said that the pilots who are 64 here and aren’t on medical leave or calling in sick per day is about 34%. He said the older the pilot the less efficient they are to the company and therefore age 67 would just provide 2 more years of 34% availability for those pilots. I tend to agree with him it does nothing to solve the perceived “pilot shortage”

People will start calling in sick two years prior to their planned or forced retirement date. If it’s raised to 67 then folks start calling in sick at 65. It’s a moving target.

I am sure SK gets that but it doesn’t help the narrative.

ReadOnly7 05-22-2022 09:28 AM

That’s why one should meter out their sick bank usage the entire span of your career. Helps keep the operation more reliable, while also not leaving one cent on the table.

13n144e 05-22-2022 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3427663)
Thats because the OP is blowing it all out of proportion. Any pilot can introduce a resolution at a LEC meeting. Getting anyone to vote for it is another issue. They got absolutely zero traction.

Don’t think any LEC resolution is even pertinent anymore. Much more relevant and potentially much more significant is that Graham is actually preparing legislation.

TFAYD 05-22-2022 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 3427731)
That’s why one should meter out their sick bank usage the entire span of your career. Helps keep the operation more reliable, while also not leaving one cent on the table.

You should collect at your highest pay rate.

I am sure a quick excel model will inform the company easily on how many extra coverage is required for reliability.


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