Core4 vs Coronavirus
03-04-2020 | 01:47 AM
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Core4 vs Coronavirus
For those of you who actually believe Core4 is a real thing, let’s see if United relaxes its dependability guidelines when pilots start calling in sick due to flu symptoms. The MEC and MC Insler have your back:
MEC Update 3/3/20: “The most important way to prevent the spread of this virus is containment. This is predicated on basic self-care, starting with not showing up to work with any symptoms of illness. If you are sick, do not come to work. If you do not have an adequate sick bank balance contact your CPO and your local ALPA representative for assistance.”
Does United management? DEPENDABLE CARING SAFE EFFICIENT
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MEC Update 3/3/20: “The most important way to prevent the spread of this virus is containment. This is predicated on basic self-care, starting with not showing up to work with any symptoms of illness. If you are sick, do not come to work. If you do not have an adequate sick bank balance contact your CPO and your local ALPA representative for assistance.”
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03-04-2020 | 08:04 AM
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You don’t appear to believe “it’s a real thing” so why hold managment to task for something that you’re convinced is make believe?
Why not just leave it at: “don’t work sick - the MEC has your back”? It’s apparent that the grievance committee is ready to spend a system board hearing for corona virus related sick leave counseling if management gets over zealous on calling people.
Regarding CORE4, I think it’s delivered in a hokey way, but having worked under managements who simply didn’t care - I’ll take it. If they won’t do the right thing (which could be the case) ALPA has the hammer.
What I think would be useful is to start exploring emergency pandemic allocations of sick leave due to “circumstances beyond our control”.
Why not just leave it at: “don’t work sick - the MEC has your back”? It’s apparent that the grievance committee is ready to spend a system board hearing for corona virus related sick leave counseling if management gets over zealous on calling people.
Regarding CORE4, I think it’s delivered in a hokey way, but having worked under managements who simply didn’t care - I’ll take it. If they won’t do the right thing (which could be the case) ALPA has the hammer.
What I think would be useful is to start exploring emergency pandemic allocations of sick leave due to “circumstances beyond our control”.
03-04-2020 | 08:49 AM
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For those of you who actually believe Core4 is a real thing, let’s see if United relaxes its dependability guidelines when pilots start calling in sick due to flu symptoms. The MEC and MC Insler have your back:
MEC Update 3/3/20: “The most important way to prevent the spread of this virus is containment. This is predicated on basic self-care, starting with not showing up to work with any symptoms of illness. If you are sick, do not come to work. If you do not have an adequate sick bank balance contact your CPO and your local ALPA representative for assistance.”
Does United management? DEPENDABLE CARING SAFE EFFICIENT
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MEC Update 3/3/20: “The most important way to prevent the spread of this virus is containment. This is predicated on basic self-care, starting with not showing up to work with any symptoms of illness. If you are sick, do not come to work. If you do not have an adequate sick bank balance contact your CPO and your local ALPA representative for assistance.”
Does United management? DEPENDABLE CARING SAFE EFFICIENT
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03-04-2020 | 11:59 AM
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From: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
For those of you who actually believe Core4 is a real thing, let’s see if United relaxes its dependability guidelines when pilots start calling in sick due to flu symptoms. The MEC and MC Insler have your back:
MEC Update 3/3/20: “The most important way to prevent the spread of this virus is containment. This is predicated on basic self-care, starting with not showing up to work with any symptoms of illness. If you are sick, do not come to work. If you do not have an adequate sick bank balance contact your CPO and your local ALPA representative for assistance.”
Does United management? DEPENDABLE CARING SAFE EFFICIENT
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MEC Update 3/3/20: “The most important way to prevent the spread of this virus is containment. This is predicated on basic self-care, starting with not showing up to work with any symptoms of illness. If you are sick, do not come to work. If you do not have an adequate sick bank balance contact your CPO and your local ALPA representative for assistance.”
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And no management didn’t practice it prior to this event either.
03-04-2020 | 12:11 PM
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03-04-2020 | 03:47 PM
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Give me a break, with the huge loss of flying to China, loss of corporate travel and schedule reductions we should run a new hire class? Get a grip....
03-04-2020 | 04:25 PM
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According to reports on this site, at the most recent charm school Oscar and Kirby said they’re 90% certain they can ride this out without furloughs.
We currently have 13,570 pilots on our list. Adding those 23 pilots would have increased the burden by 0.17%.
To renege on that commitment will make next to zero difference in the overall success or failure of United Airlines, but it undoubtedly has a devastating effect on those 23 families.
03-04-2020 | 04:40 PM
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We aren't independent contractors Francisco. We take care of our own. That starts from the moment they hear "Congratulations, welcome to United!"
03-04-2020 | 05:17 PM
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I’ve got no problem with cancelling future classes. In fact that’s the responsible thing to do. But you do it after this one, and with more than three days notice. That’s really pretty simple and should be obvious to even the most slack jawed and dull eyed of the bunch.
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