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Old 07-07-2020 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by crflyer
I’m well aware of what the 70% is supposed to mean, but 2350 plus 1000 monthly until March is 7350. That’s the part that didn’t make sense.
I think he’s saying 1000 on top of 2350 after monthly furloughs.
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Old 07-07-2020 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Fresh
I think he’s saying 1000 on top of 2350 after monthly furloughs.
^^^^^this. Monthly furloughs through March to equal another 1000. This will give them the ability to quickly cancel furloughs if summer demand picks up or get to 70% to carry through next summer.

its really max flexibility.
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Old 07-07-2020 | 04:23 PM
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Yeah, guess we’ll all see soon enough. Only a UPS truck came by today.
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Old 07-07-2020 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by crflyer
That’s 7,350 furloughs.

3350 total on furlough status
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Old 07-07-2020 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RJDio
9200 active pilots by 03/21?
active flying on PBS roster around 8600
instructors/ evaluators/ TK Pilots and management Pilots around 375 not on PBS
LTDs around 225 obviously not flying

Total not on furlough status 9200 by March 1st 2021

most junior pilot of those 9200 pilots will be a 2014 hired.
He or she will be the plug If you know what I mean
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Old 07-07-2020 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
active flying on PBS roster around 8600
instructors/ evaluators/ TK Pilots and management Pilots around 375 not on PBS
LTDs around 225 obviously not flying

Total not on furlough status 9200 by March 1st 2021

most junior pilot of those 9200 pilots will be a 2014 hired.
He or she will be the plug If you know what I mean

minus the voluntary separations and furloughs.

still a 2014 hire but hopefully late 2014
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Old 07-07-2020 | 04:53 PM
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So the 30% number that has been thrown around by management, ALPA, etc from the start of this.....bold predictions there guys.
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Old 07-07-2020 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by UAL97
So the 30% number that has been thrown around by management, ALPA, etc from the start of this.
yeah but most seemed to be looking at 30% today which put pre merger hires in the picture. Then they looked at 30% for OCT 1.....that’s what everyone who is following training trends is saying. The real answer is what is 70% on SEP 1 2021. That is the answer and I think Sniper has it within a 100 numbers. This number means ONLY post merger pilots will be furloughed.

this will allow the company to put off recalls until late winter 21 spring 22

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Old 07-07-2020 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
active flying on PBS roster around 8600
instructors/ evaluators/ TK Pilots and management Pilots around 375 not on PBS
LTDs around 225 obviously not flying

Total not on furlough status 9200 by March 1st 2021

most junior pilot of those 9200 pilots will be a 2014 hired.
He or she will be the plug If you know what I mean
Gotcha. Looks like I know what my Christmas present will be this year.

So much for Kirby’s bravado. Seems like this could have been a perfect opportunity to capture more domestic market share, likely at a loss, with a long term payout. Gotta look out for those shareholders though.
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Old 07-07-2020 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RJDio
Seems like this could have been a perfect opportunity to capture more domestic market share, likely at a loss, with a long term payout.
Without business travelers, it's not really market share.

The customers that fly once a year and only buy the cheapest ticket will always be there.
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