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Old 07-30-2020 | 07:46 AM
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3900 is a magic number. It is all of the post merger hires down to the number. What They have done is pitted our new generation of pilots against the old generation.

Negotiating in public and begging for concessions by putting the pilot group against one another.
Yep, funny he mentioned he does not like to negotiate in public while he was negotiating in public.
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Old 07-30-2020 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
3900 is a magic number. It is all of the post merger hires down to the number. What They have done is pitted our new generation of pilots against the old generation.

Negotiating in public and begging for concessions by putting the pilot group against one another.
The vote, if there is one, will definitely be before Oct 1st. The MEC chairman needs those votes. That gives them two months to craft the thing, road shows to sell it, and then vote. I'd expect something in the next week or two.

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Old 07-30-2020 | 07:50 AM
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I would love to be proven wrong, I do not think Congress has much of an appetite to help the airline industry a second time this year
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Old 07-30-2020 | 07:51 AM
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You want to reduce payroll? How about you pay $200,000 a year instead of $400,000 a year to WB CAs. Either way they are sitting at home not flying. If WB flyin is not supposed to come back and our entire 777 fleet is parked then buy those guys out.

they want to leave so let them go. Saving $200000 a year is more than the junior pilots make.
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Old 07-30-2020 | 07:56 AM
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The vote, if there is one, will definitely be before Oct 1st. The MEC chairman needs those votes. That gives them two months to craft the thing, road shows to sell it, and then vote. I'd expect something in the next week or two.

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I agree and the way Inslers eyes darted around and the way he rubbed his face in his last video when he said concessions are not being discussed....yet makes me believe it’s already been agreed too.
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Old 07-30-2020 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
3900 is a magic number. It is all of the post merger hires down to the number. What They have done is pitted our new generation of pilots against the old generation.

Negotiating in public and begging for concessions by putting the pilot group against one another.
Bingo.....that number and where it falls is not a coincidence.
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Old 07-30-2020 | 08:15 AM
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As much as I think this is part trying to get concessions and part lobbying for Cares 2.0, reality is that as long as there is no businesses travel and no intl travel and this is what the model is set up for it’s simply not going to work.
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Old 07-30-2020 | 08:17 AM
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[QUOTE=MasterOfPuppets;3101713]3900 is a magic number. It is all of the post merger hires down to the number. What They have done is pitted our new generation of pilots against the old generation......]


And this began with the HOGAN and then continued in LEAP training. They always play the long game.
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Old 07-30-2020 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
You want to reduce payroll? How about you pay $200,000 a year instead of $400,000 a year to WB CAs. Either way they are sitting at home not flying. If WB flyin is not supposed to come back and our entire 777 fleet is parked then buy those guys out.

they want to leave so let them go. Saving $200000 a year is more than the junior pilots make.
I know this is not what you were referring to, but have any our current WB CAs ever been furloughed? This isn’t a slam. Just curious about the history.
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Old 07-30-2020 | 08:33 AM
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[QUOTE=oldmako;3101750]
Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
3900 is a magic number. It is all of the post merger hires down to the number. What They have done is pitted our new generation of pilots against the old generation......]


And this began with the HOGAN and then continued in LEAP training. They always play the long game.
I keep waiting for LEAP Tony to put out out the next series of level 4 professional videos where L4 pros always jump on the grenade for their company, even if their company was the one who tossed said grenade.
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