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Old 07-30-2020 | 07:00 AM
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5000+ get 2005 hires 1999 LUA
Ok, how about 3900? Hiring was extremely quiet for a lot of years between 2005 and a few years ago when it picked up massively.
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Old 07-30-2020 | 07:03 AM
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Except, where he went around the union to float concessions as another option.

Yes, by scaring the junior guys with job losses and senior guys with career expectations.
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Old 07-30-2020 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ScarebusPusher
Ok, how about 3900? Hiring was extremely quiet for a lot of years between 2005 and a few years ago when it picked up massively.

It takes out just about every post merger hire.


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Old 07-30-2020 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ScarebusPusher
Ok, how about 3900? Hiring was extremely quiet for a lot of years between 2005 and a few years ago when it picked up massively.
From TOTAL pilots on the seniority list, that's right about me...
March '08 L-UAL
From ACTIVE pilots?
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Old 07-30-2020 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
From TOTAL pilots on the seniority list, that's right about me...
March '08 L-UAL
From ACTIVE pilots?
The chainsaw math according to our MEC Chair:

Compute a furlough number using your assumed % of ACTIVE pilots. (Example: 30% of 11,675 = 3,503)

Subtract that result from the TOTAL list. (Currently 13,047)

That's the very approximate line not accounting for interim retirements or voluntary reductions.
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Old 07-30-2020 | 07:15 AM
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Humor this none-US guy, if you will. Do the inactive numbers make the outlook better for the junior guys?
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Old 07-30-2020 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
The chainsaw math according to our MEC Chair:

Compute a furlough number using your assumed % of ACTIVE pilots. (Example: 30% of 11,675 = 3,503)

Subtract that result from the TOTAL list. (Currently 13,047)

That's the very approximate line not accounting for interim retirements or voluntary reductions.
this is correct according to the MEC message, however Brian’s CCS memo today very specifically mentions 3900 and then the ACTIVE pilot number (11,675). Perhaps there was an earlier understanding using the percentage/total calculation but my read is that now we are talking about 11,675-3900=7,775 by early next year. I do believe there is gamesmanship involved regarding the cares 2 money
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Old 07-30-2020 | 07:28 AM
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I thought I heard PC say on a call that 10,797 was the 8-Ball of the 2,250. So, another 1,650 lands at 9,147. That's just my guess. That would include a few pre-merger pilots.
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Old 07-30-2020 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ScarebusPusher
Ok, how about 3900? Hiring was extremely quiet for a lot of years between 2005 and a few years ago when it picked up massively.
3900 is a magic number. It is all of the post merger hires down to the number. What They have done is pitted our new generation of pilots against the old generation.

Negotiating in public and begging for concessions by putting the pilot group against one another.
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Old 07-30-2020 | 07:40 AM
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Im buying that ^. So jacked up. Sorry guys terrible way to start the day hope this doesn’t materialize
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