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130shadow 09-16-2020 05:11 PM

Glad Elaine was able to help you figure that out.

Seneca Pilot 09-16-2020 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Arthur Vandelay (Post 3130237)
[QUOTE

On the bright side, if UAL ever goes TU, you can go back to being a latex salesman.

I’ve moved into importing/exporting.[/QUOTE]


Wait, I thought you were an architect.

130av8er 09-16-2020 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Setopbug (Post 3130212)
Captain Meplanet.

Nobody cares about your pathetic problems, dude. Except you. Don't come on here looking for sympathy or trolling employees who've a lot more to lose than your entitled carcass.

Vote no and shaddup.

Do you realize how fortunate you are you have a union that negotiated a contract that allowed you to sit at home and get paid for doing nothing since April? Do you realize how fortunate you are to have a job in the midst of the biggest pandemic in the history of our country? You've even got your health (For now, fatboy) and your retirement. (For now, after the wheels really come off the economy you probably won't.)

Self-involved bloviating people like you are the reason I upgraded the moment I could. Mere words cannot express how much I detest somebody who doesn't recognize their good fortune, and doesn't understand that complaining about things they have no control over is toxic.


Not sure when you got to UAL or if you have been previously furloughed by this company. I have been furloughed by this company. I don't like this TA for numerous reasons, but here is my number one problem : Tiered Pay Groups (we are either a Union or not). This right here is a NO vote for me.

biggun 09-16-2020 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by 130av8er (Post 3130273)
Not sure when you got to UAL or if you have been previously furloughed by this company. I have been furloughed by this company. I don't like this TA for numerous reasons, but here is my number one problem : Tiered Pay Groups (we are either a Union or not). This right here is a NO vote for me.

And I thought POS 02 contract was a POS. This thing wreaks. We must be the laughing stock of ALPA.

is Jeff Brown still on the NC? Geez...........it's like listening to Larry Kellner. I need to get my wallet and throw some more money out.

130shadow 09-16-2020 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot (Post 3130270)
I’ve moved into importing/exporting.


Wait, I thought you were an architect.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I believe you did the addition to the Guggenheim

Nucflash 09-16-2020 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by 130shadow (Post 3130186)
Been there and done that, but now you won’t since I am contributing 60k. They will furlough in 8 months, you can bet on it.

How long were you furloughed?

dr650 09-16-2020 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by 130shadow (Post 3130280)
Wait, I thought you were an architect.

Yes, I believe you did the addition to the Guggenheim[/QUOTE]


hey, how long were you furloughed?

130shadow 09-16-2020 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Nucflash (Post 3130282)
How long were you furloughed?

14 months furloughed

Setopbug 09-16-2020 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by 130av8er (Post 3130273)
Not sure when you got to UAL or if you have been previously furloughed by this company. I have been furloughed by this company. I don't like this TA for numerous reasons, but here is my number one problem : Tiered Pay Groups (we are either a Union or not). This right here is a NO vote for me.

I'm actually leaning toward a no vote. If they furlough, Delta and Southwest will clean our clock on the recovery. I think we should call their bluff and make them make the difficult decisions and bear the pain.

My beef was with his pathetic, woe-is-me screed. And his wrong-headed mentality that he is somehow being stolen from to give to a different part of the pilot group.

Weak and ignorant.

ReadOnly7 09-16-2020 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 3130207)

The lines are going to be built to a stupidly low level as I understand it. Therefore, the super senior will be the ones picking up the open time. Unless you're in that group, you can likely forget about seeing anything in open time other than occasional crap. And that's IF there is any open time. Depending on BES you may either line your pockets or eat sand. The level of open time in my last seat was abysmal. It matters not what your pay rate is if you can only bring home X hours per month.

And correct me if I am wrong, but there will be guys bumped from the left seat to the right who will get to keep their Captains pay rate. They will likely be super senior in BES. They will be the ones slurpoing up the open time, and at Captains pay. And if the company is offering premium pay, they will be making more than the Captain. Nice work if you can get it. Eat sand if you can't.

weren’t you irritated that the early outs weren’t offered for your age group last time? So isn’t this what you asked for just a couple months ago?


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