Originally Posted by Flydafe (Post 3218728)

I counter this thinking with the development of the civilian pilot training program that allowed the Tuskegee airmen to be created. Compared to their counterparts in the military they out performed everyone and never lost a bomber in combat. They became so desired by their Caucasian counterparts that they where given the name “by request” because they knew that they would come home if escorted by the Red Tails. They were requested multiple times and never failed... over 1500 missions. Many of your grandfathers were escorted by these men.

The standards were not lowered when the military included minority pilots.. the standards were shattered in that era and there is historical data to back it up.

History of The Tuskegee Airmen

Originally Posted by Chuck D (Post 3218842)

you’ve proven my point in practical terms

Originally Posted by CantTaxiToACS (Post 3218861)

Trying to look in the macro here. I don’t think it’s about the 2,500 people that have to be not a white dude. It’s more about 20 years from now another kid seeing an African American woman as a captain. Filling a racial quota today will lead to a more uniform and fair pool in the future because small kids will see people who look like them up front and then be inspired. It doesn’t have to be a binary argument. Yes, it’s a little dystopian on the surface but it’s not about now, it’s really for 15-25 years from now.

Originally Posted by CantTaxiToACS (Post 3218861)

Trying to look in the macro here. I don’t think it’s about the 2,500 people that have to be not a white dude. It’s more about 20 years from now another kid seeing an African American woman as a captain. Filling a racial quota today will lead to a more uniform and fair pool in the future because small kids will see people who look like them up front and then be inspired. It doesn’t have to be a binary argument. Yes, it’s a little dystopian on the surface but it’s not about now, it’s really for 15-25 years from now. It’s about the small girl seeing a female captain and realizing that being an airline captain is an option.

Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 3218868)

So you're an ends justify the means, kind of guy.

Originally Posted by CantTaxiToACS (Post 3218861)

Trying to look in the macro here. I don’t think it’s about the 2,500 people that have to be not a white dude. It’s more about 20 years from now another kid seeing an African American woman as a captain. Filling a racial quota today will lead to a more uniform and fair pool in the future because small kids will see people who look like them up front and then be inspired. It doesn’t have to be a binary argument. Yes, it’s a little dystopian on the surface but it’s not about now, it’s really for 15-25 years from now. It’s about the small girl seeing a female captain and realizing that being an airline captain is an option.

Originally Posted by CantTaxiToACS (Post 3218861)

Trying to look in the macro here. I don’t think it’s about the 2,500 people that have to be not a white dude. It’s more about 20 years from now another kid seeing an African American woman as a captain. Filling a racial quota today will lead to a more uniform and fair pool in the future because small kids will see people who look like them up front and then be inspired. It doesn’t have to be a binary argument. Yes, it’s a little dystopian on the surface but it’s not about now, it’s really for 15-25 years from now. It’s about the small girl seeing a female captain and realizing that being an airline captain is an option.

Originally Posted by Knobcrk1 (Post 3218873)

Are we in 1960? There’s plenty of female pilots to look up to if a young girl was interested in flying today. When will the preferential treatment end? I guess when 50% are minorities.

Originally Posted by CantTaxiToACS (Post 3218877)

Just saying. Some people in certain minorities don’t even think flying is an option for them. If they see it’s an option for them they will then work hard for their goals without assistance from programs like this.