I wouldn’t be surprised if AA comes out with something. Although, I don’t think it’ll be a $200/month fine like delta. Delta is clearly making money on that even accounting for the hospitalizations they have to pay for.

My theory is that United and Delta are a bit more wokified so maybe there’s a decent amount of board members on the AA team that aren’t vaccinated themselves which leads to their current no vaccine mandate policy. Although, that doesn’t stop the hypocrisy with the White House Staff. Or maybe they’re waiting to see how many delays are caused by crew members out of spite at United and Delta.

 

https://www.envoyair.com/2020/01/27/flow-american-airlines/

Please do so.

 

He said show me one study, so I did. If you want to take ivermectin then do it, personally I’d rather go with the approved and tested route but to each their own. Just ironic that the big argument against vaccines is they didn’t want to be trial participants on a vaccine therapy that wasn’t fully tested yet they’re willing to pump themselves full of farm animal parasite medicine to test its efficacy against the virus? But who knows… it may work, if you think ivermectin is safer then have at it.

 

Ivermectin has been used over 40 years and used more on one continent IN HUMANS than the vaccines have in the entire world. Are you saying the WHO put a farm animal parasite medicine on their essential medicine list. You should write them and tell them they’re mistaken.

 

It’s a parasitic medicine that hasn’t show much efficacy in large trials. It’s all anecdotal and yet you don’t trust a vaccine that’s been shown to decrease severe cases in large trials. I’m not saying that ivermectin doesn’t work and there isn’t some financial gain angle from big pharma but I’d much rather take an multi government approved and doctor approved vaccine than some BS anti parasite medicine you read about on Reddit.

 

I didn’t say I don’t trust the vaccines. And I never said to not get them. But to prevent Covid and also treat Covid, Ivermectin has shown to be extremely successful by everyone who uses it in actual practice. You also don’t know what the large trials say, because your study or any other study that says “uncertain” never shows the data of what they compare it to. They give you numbers for the Ivermectin users but show nothing of the placebo groups. They just say “uncertain”

I love how you dismiss it like only 3 people have ever used it. If 2.8 billion doses, the WHO, being granted a Nobel prize, India claiming its saved thousands if not millions of lives because of their actual use of it isn’t good enough for you… then it sounds like you’ll never be satisfied no matter what unless you have the blessing of Dr. Fauci or the FDA with whom he collaborates with. Which btw, India’s covid success are kicking every other developed nations arse despite being only 10% fully vaccinated. Jesus could come down and tell you it works but then you’d say, “yea but what’s the FDA say?”

 

It’s not that it isn’t good for me or I’m better than it, it’s just that covid isn’t a parasite. When my doctor prescribes me it I’ll gladly take it. I still have a little faith in the medical system.

 

I don't want to take a ton of time to quote everyone and show the links, but the information is there for the taking for those that are truly interested in digging deeper.

1)The links above both from Merck and PubMed against Ivermectin suffer from several flaws.

First everything Merck says in their public statement is essentially false. Yes, they make money from Ivermectin, but no where close to the $7 billion in grants and $1.2 billion in government purchases for their investigative drug against COVID which the government already agreed to buy. Then there's the remark about a lack of pre-clinical evidence. That is a straight up lie. There is a great deal of research. They also remark on a lack of safety in the studies, but that is ludicrous as drugs are constantly repurposed without safety studies specific to the new treatment. Ivermectin has 4 decades plus of safety in humans. Merck does not appear to be trustworthy on this issue.

Second, the PubMed surveys of studies as well as the CDCs own analysis focus in on Clinical Trials that are mostly too small to be considered of value and furthermore they ALL, to the one, fail to examine combination therapies or therapies not involving people who have already been admitted to the hospital in serious condition. They utterly fail to examine large populations BEFORE infection.

The real world meta-analyses are not what the CDC likes to see as evidence, and that is the heart of the issue. Some doctors look at 100s of thousands of data taken from a meta-analysis and say "whoa" that's interesting, but the CDC and big pharma look for very specific Clinical Trial data. Real world results seem to indicate the CDC style of review is not optimum, but clearly people around the world, including Dr. Fauci, consider it the only acceptable means of making public recommendations.

 

I get what you’re saying but it’s been used for other diseases as well with success. I still have faith in the medical system too. But I have a lot more faith in actual doctors currently treating patients in the real world that aren’t being paid to push a particular product. I have less faith in drug companies or organizations that have never treated an actual patient trying to make billions off the population. I also believe that was the general sentiment of just about every American until last year. Now some people pretend Dr. Fauci and these corporations are God and everything else is a conspiracy theory.

 

Merck is currently working on a therapeutic for Covid. This is just a guess, but being that they already make Ivermectin they know the formula. Theyll probably just make one or two tweaks in the new drug so they can say it’s not the same but then charge $20 a pop instead of 10 cents. You’d think they’d just jack up the price of Ivermectin now and get the FDA to sign off on it, but there’s already too many people that think it’s an animal medication so it’d be a tough sell. The new drug will basically be Ivermectin 2.0 and I would guess it’ll be out in the next year or two. Maybe when the 3rd or 4th round of boosters start wearing off and people are ready to move onto something else. Again, purely a guess. But seems to be another easy way to make a few billion. Maybe United will mandate it.