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Old 08-28-2021 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Longduckdong
Let’s face it. In order to be pro or anti vax you have to be putting your trust or distrust somewhere. I don’t care how much research you’ve done, you won’t have the same knowledge as someone who spent years studying this stuff as a graduate student and then spent decades gaining experience on the job. If they wanted to give you bad or misleading information it’s unlikely you’d recognize it, but a fair number of people are trusting it as though those people were incapable of misleading or lying to anyone. And a lot of those people are also the same people who would never trust airline management if a dollar was involved. All I know for sure is that I don’t know who is telling the truth or if they even know the truth themselves, and I simply can’t dedicate years and years studying the topic to find out that answer. Who knows, in 200 years from now medical science may be shaking its head at us over all this the same way we shake our heads at some of the stuff medical science was doing 200 years ago.
We still don't shake our heads at inoculating with real smallpox (variola minor). George Washington so inoculated his entire Army.

Vaccines also have an illustrious history of human experimentation right from the start. In 1796 Edward Jenner took some puss from the blisters of a milk maid and injected it into an eight year old boy. The boy developed a minor illness and recovered. He subsequently injected the boy with smallpox to no effect. The word "vaccine" is derived from "vaccinia", the latin name for cowpox. And people act like human experimentation is depraved. Imagine where we'd be if everyone was an experiment.
Old 08-28-2021 | 07:55 AM
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Old 08-29-2021 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Thedude86
So dramatic over side effects comparable to Tylenol. More people have died in commercial air travel in the last 10 years just in the U.S. than have died from using Ivermectin. If you’re going to take Tylenol or Tums tonight, make sure you’re senior to me.
Ivermectin has killed more people simply by being ineffective against COVID. Right-wing talk radio hosts are dropping like flies due to Ivermectin.
Old 08-29-2021 | 09:43 PM
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Define “ineffective.” Can you tell me what it actually does?

I had covid. I was told to take Tylenol and Motrin. Neither one of those drugs is a cure either, but they “may” help with symptoms.

If I had Ivermectin, my symptoms may have been lessened, and while I was not hospitalized I was down for nearly three weeks.
Old 08-29-2021 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by at6d
Define “ineffective.” Can you tell me what it actually does?

I had covid. I was told to take Tylenol and Motrin. Neither one of those drugs is a cure either, but they “may” help with symptoms.

If I had Ivermectin, my symptoms may have been lessened, and while I was not hospitalized I was down for nearly three weeks.
The point is that the "informationally susceptible" are foregoing effective treatments like the vaccine by thinking that Ivermectin will save them.

Motrin won't save you from severe COVID. Neither will an anti-parasitic. Only a vaccine taken before the infection can do that.
Old 08-30-2021 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
Right-wing talk radio hosts are dropping like flies due to Ivermectin.
And your credibility just dropped to zero. What right wing talk show hosts have died “due” to Ivermectin ingestion?
Old 08-30-2021 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Myfingershurt
Sorry. You’re second statement is kinda what i was inferring. Many of the vaccine hold outs are so because they’ve had previous infections and am have been told that they have just as good if not better immunity than vaccines are providing. But corporations seem to be turning a dumb, deaf, and blind eye to these kind of studies and just throwing blanket vaccine mandates over everyone.
For every one study saying they have immunity from a certain strain there are more studies showing the vaccines efficacy against a broader range of the virus. Now delta has complicated it again. Old studies pre delta and the vaccine being more commonly studied skewing the number of studies... now we are seeing pilots arguing about a deworming medicine for a virus. You can go down many rabbit holes of disinformation by selectively choosing what you want to believe. If we are this easily swayed either way we have much larger problems in society.
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
And your credibility just dropped to zero. What right wing talk show hosts have died “due” to Ivermectin ingestion?
The three I’ve read about in the last few days are below. I don’t know what they took. But they were all against the vaccine and promoted anti-vax/anti-masks on their programs and/or media platforms.

Mark Bernier out of DAB
Dick Farrel (Farrel Austin Levitt)
Phil Valentine (TN)
Old 08-30-2021 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLakes
The three I’ve read about in the last few days are below. I don’t know what they took. But they were all against the vaccine and promoted anti-vax/anti-masks on their programs and/or media platforms.

Mark Bernier out of DAB
Dick Farrel (Farrel Austin Levitt)
Phil Valentine (TN)
Caleb Wallace leader of the San Angelo Freedom Defenders. Ivermectin injected himself in early July came down with covid end of July. He passed a few days ago after being in a medically induced coma for 3 weeks. 4 kids and wife left behind.
Old 08-30-2021 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Aquaticus
Caleb Wallace leader of the San Angelo Freedom Defenders. Ivermectin injected himself in early July came down with covid end of July. He passed a few days ago after being in a medically induced coma for 3 weeks. 4 kids and wife left behind.
thoughts and prayers.
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