I never said they willingly funded outbreaks. I’m sure the outbreak was unintentional. But almost the entire medical community including our dementia in chief’s administration now believe the lab leak theory is correct and that specific lab is funded by Fauci and the NIH. That’s not a conspiracy. Even CNN has reported on this numerous times for the last several months.

your NIH study compares it to nothing. It gives numbers on the people who used HCQ but gives absolutely 0 data on how it compares to people who did not use it. Again, find just one doctor who has used the drug in actual real world practice that hasn’t shown effective results. I’m not even asking you to find a doctor that says it’s killed anyone. I’m asking you to find just one that’s actually used it in a real world environment as directed that’s treated actual covid patients that says the drug isn’t worth it. The only places you can find that say it’s not worth it are organizations being funded by drug companies making billions of dollars. Of course they’re gonna side with them. And again… none of those organizations treat actual patients.

Your CNN article doesn’t give too many specifics. 70% of what? 2 people? 2 people calling into the poison control center? 2 people that are just randomly taking it without any medical advice? I don’t think there’s anybody in their right mind taking any drug as directed that would then call the poison control center instead of their doctor (who directed them) when something goes wrong. Yea, that’s some earth shattering evidence.

 

I honestly don’t mean this as an insult. But if you’re not willing to actually look at the evidence it’s extremely unproductive (to put it nicely) to say Ivermectin is only used for horses. I don’t mind doing the research so others can read it too…

1. Ivermectin has been given out 2.8 BILLION with a B times in Africa alone since 1987. IN HUMANS. Which btw, I’m pretty sure that number just in Africa is higher than the number of covid vaccinations that’s been given out in the entire world. So you’re saying a drug that’s been used in humans MORE than a vaccine for humans is meant for horses? That literally makes zero sense.

2. The WHO listed ivermectin as an essential medicine in 2019. IN HUMANS. Why would the WHO put a horse medication on an essential medicine list for humans? Again, that makes zero sense.

3. In 2015 William C Campbell and Satoshi Omura won a Nobel prize for their work with Ivermectin. In Africa. IN HUMANS. Why would the Nobel assembly give out an award for a horse medication? Are you and the FDA saying Africans are animals? Again, that makes zero sense. Maybe the Kentucky Derby has deep underground connections with the Nobel assembly.

4. A peer reviewed study I posted on one of these threads from India used a real world scenario with health care workers in a hospital treating covid patients. There were hundreds of volunteers. The health care workers who used Ivermectin were infected with Covid 83% LESS than those who didn’t use the drug. That’s a real world scenario.

Do you want to go tell those people in India working with Covid they need to stop using Ivermectin because the FDA says it’s for horses? Screw their 83%? Not to mention the thousands of doctors who have used it in the U.S. with success. Do you want to tell all those Africans that took 2.8 BILLION doses who called it a “wonder drug” that they need to stop taking it because they’re a bunch of conspiracy theorists?

Im not saying it is, but if a drug that’s been used MORE than the vaccine, listed as an essential medicine by the WHO, and was given a Nobel prize is considered a horse medicine… using your logic… the vaccine qualifies more as a horse drug than Ivermectin.

 

While I make absolutely zero claims for the efficacy of an anti-parasite medication for treating a viral disease…

FDA-approved Stromectol isn’t the same thing as ivermectin purchased at Tractor Supply.

 

so the WHO, the same institution you cited here to support your argument, has said that vaccination is the most effective way to combat COVID. Hence, end of the conversation. So please, go ahead get your vaccine.

 

Just simply get the vaccination or get out!!! September 27th is a hard deadline!!!

 

There will probably be less than 50 pilots who don't qualify for accommodation and actually get terminated for not meeting the deadline. From the company standpoint, it’s an insignificant number and not an issue. The extremely small number who stand their ground will have zero impact on the operation and the machine will just chug on along without them. The company gets to virtue signal about how our employees are fully vaccinated, and life goes on. I do find it ironic that we brag about the 4 flight attendants in the cabin being vaccinated, but the 170 pax sitting shoulder to shoulder are not.

 

Did I ever say not to get the vaccine? My argument is that some including the FDA considers Ivermectin horse medication even though it’s been used MORE than the vaccine. I never said not to get the vaccine. Are you saying that all those Africans are animals? The vaccinated are still getting infected and increasing by the day. If you’re sick in the hospital with Covid it’s a little late to get the vaccine or your 3rd or 4th or 16th booster shot don’t you think? Unlike a vaccine Ivermectin can still be used even after infection to improve your condition. Find me a doctor that’s used it without success. Being that the Pfizer’s vaccine is less than 40% effective now without a booster…. People are actually less likely to get Covid using Ivermectin. You would know this if you look at ANY data not funded directly or indirectly by billion dollar corporations. You can worship big pharma’s self funded studies if you want but regardless, to call Ivermectin a horse medicine is completely ignorant and hypocritical.

 

The FDA doesn’t say that. The FDA says that ivermectin is for horses that is made for horses and ivermectin that is made for people is for people. It’s in reference to the crazy people buying horse dewormer and subsequently calling poison control because the dosages and whatever else is in there aren’t suitable for humans.


It’s the majority of the scientific studies/healthcare community that says anti-parasitics haven’t had a greater effect on outcomes than a placebo post-infection.

 

im also not saying the WHO is completely corrupt. They still care about people’s health. Hence, why else would they consider an “apparent” horse drug an essential medicine? But it’s also extremely naive to think they’re not biased towards billion dollar corporations that help fund them. Ivermectin only costs about 10 cents per pill. The vaccines create billions. You honestly can say without a doubt there’s no bias there? Be real.

One of the original creators of the actual mRNA vaccines themselves from the early 90s and late 80s has even said based on the recent studies and actual use of Ivermectin in India… Ivermectin could wipe out Covid if widely used. I can post the link if you want, but since he’s not funded by billion dollar corporations that somehow have no motive to make a profit, you probably think he’s a conspiracy theorist. Even though he has more knowledge about mRNA vaccines in his thumb than every pilot on this forum combined.

Don’t take my word for it. Google India Covid. Their cases are almost non existent now compared to off the charts a few months ago. Which is when they just started using Ivermectin. Only 10% of their population is fully vaccinated. Meanwhile, the U.S. is approaching 70% vaccination and cases increasing by the day. A lot of which are vaccinated. Israel and Iceland are 85% and 90% vaccinated and they’re covid numbers are the highest they’ve EVER been. A Majority of their cases are vaccinated.

Answer me this, if you could play God for a day… would you tell Africans and Indians to stop using Ivermectin because the FDA says it’s a horse medicine? Would you honestly tell them that? Of course you wouldn’t.

 

I know that. You know that. Any doctor willing to do research knows that. The FDA probably knows that too, but they’re not making it public information that there’s a difference between horse and human Ivermectin. The FDA recently put out a meme on Twitter saying that Ivermectin is strictly for horses and cows and for people NOT to use it. They didn’t make ANY mention of human use despite being used over 2.8 billion times in Africa alone. Why is that?

The majority if not 100% of actual use and practice has shown Ivermectin to be extremely effective. I’ll ask you as well… would you tell all those people in India to stop using Ivermectin because your big pharma studies don’t support the data? Even though the people of India has said it’s saved thousands if not millions of lives? You would advise them to stop taking Ivermectin? Seriously?