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#901
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You may be misquoting me from a different poster or something. I don't disagree with this.
#902
I wouldn’t base history on what TV anchors were saying. The primary focus of the vaccines as stated by their developers was protecting the vaccinated individual. Initial data showed them to also be very effective at reducing transmission- which was encouraging, and became built into the strategy for a lot of people. The Delta variant is now showing itself to be more resilient against current vaccines. They still reduce spread, but not as effectively as against earlier variants; so the strategy is starting to look more like it did initially. (I.e., mask up & vaccinate as many as possible.) What people are interpreting as “flip-flopping” is actually just a response to the reality of a mutating virus. It’s not history being rewritten, but the present in real time.
#903
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99.997% Survival rate even among the infected "without" a vaccine. That's 1 in 100,000. Ebola killed 5 out of 10 people. I think that is a true pandemic.
Yet you takeoff in a airplane everyday with higher risks of being killed and taking along 100+ public citizens who also made a calculated risk to board your aircraft.
This isn't conspiracy theory propaganda. You have all been manipulated to fear living in a world that will eternally 'have risks' and in the process have affirmed your willingness to submit to authority and chase inevitable risk-zero metrics.
Yet you takeoff in a airplane everyday with higher risks of being killed and taking along 100+ public citizens who also made a calculated risk to board your aircraft.
This isn't conspiracy theory propaganda. You have all been manipulated to fear living in a world that will eternally 'have risks' and in the process have affirmed your willingness to submit to authority and chase inevitable risk-zero metrics.
#904
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I wouldn’t base history on what TV anchors were saying. The primary focus of the vaccines as stated by their developers was protecting the vaccinated individual. Initial data showed them to also be very effective at reducing transmission- which was encouraging, and became built into the strategy for a lot of people. The Delta variant is now showing itself to be more resilient against current vaccines. They still reduce spread, but not as effectively as against earlier variants; so the strategy is starting to look more like it did initially. (I.e., mask up & vaccinate as many as possible.) What people are interpreting as “flip-flopping” is actually just a response to the reality of a mutating virus. It’s not history being rewritten, but the present in real time.
The CDC has not presented peer reviewed, published evidence showing Delta is more transmittable.
Coronaviruses are common. There are trillions of virus mutations throughout history. The problem is the political response to the virus. The irrationality and hysteria.
Masks do nothing to reduce communal spread. This has been shown in peer reviewed literature, repeatedly. They are nothing more than politically based pseudo science.
The damage done because of the response to COVID has been much more severe than the disease itself, by orders of magnitude.
Coronavirus continues to be a threat to those unvaccinated and those with pre conditions and immune system dysfunction. Mostly, it effects elderly obese men. The rest of us....well, there are more important things to worry about.
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misunderstanding this comment?
#906
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99.997% Survival rate even among the infected "without" a vaccine. That's 1 in 100,000. Ebola killed 5 out of 10 people. I think that is a true pandemic.
Yet you takeoff in a airplane everyday with higher risks of being killed and taking along 100+ public citizens who also made a calculated risk to board your aircraft.
This isn't conspiracy theory propaganda. You have all been manipulated to fear living in a world that will eternally 'have risks' and in the process have affirmed your willingness to submit to authority and chase inevitable risk-zero metrics.
Yet you takeoff in a airplane everyday with higher risks of being killed and taking along 100+ public citizens who also made a calculated risk to board your aircraft.
This isn't conspiracy theory propaganda. You have all been manipulated to fear living in a world that will eternally 'have risks' and in the process have affirmed your willingness to submit to authority and chase inevitable risk-zero metrics.
#907
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CDC Director Dr.Rochelle Walensky told Wolf Blitzer on Friday that the COVID vaccine cannot prevent the transmission of the disease.
Dr. Rochelle Walensky: Our vaccines are working exceptionally well. They continue to work well for Delta in regard to severe illness and death being prevented. But what they can’t do anymore is prevent transmission.
Dr. Rochelle Walensky: Our vaccines are working exceptionally well. They continue to work well for Delta in regard to severe illness and death being prevented. But what they can’t do anymore is prevent transmission.
#908
Originally Posted by Aquaticus;[url=tel:3275256
3275256[/url]]Your lack of knowledge for basic virology doesn't make your opinions any more correct. You admit the vaccine reduces symptoms, keeps people out of the hospital, and overall greatly reduces transmission.... and then you dance around some conspiracy nonsense. This ends when hospitals aren't flooded with people on ventilators and we can keep the R value below 1. Right now the delta variant has an R value above 5 in non vaccinated populations and an R value of 1.37 in nj (one of the most vaccinated states).
Or we can just keep pretending the majority of virologists and epidemiologists are all in one big conspiracy.
Or we can just keep pretending the majority of virologists and epidemiologists are all in one big conspiracy.
#909
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Not a large sample size.
https://www.ama-assn.org/system/file...ine-report.pdf
#910
Originally Posted by Aquaticus;[url=tel:3275256
3275256[/url]]Your lack of knowledge for basic virology doesn't make your opinions any more correct. You admit the vaccine reduces symptoms, keeps people out of the hospital, and overall greatly reduces transmission.... and then you dance around some conspiracy nonsense. This ends when hospitals aren't flooded with people on ventilators and we can keep the R value below 1. Right now the delta variant has an R value above 5 in non vaccinated populations and an R value of 1.37 in nj (one of the most vaccinated states).
Or we can just keep pretending the majority of virologists and epidemiologists are all in one big conspiracy.
Or we can just keep pretending the majority of virologists and epidemiologists are all in one big conspiracy.
I and others have posted numerous actual research results directly from the sources and not media outlets, but you ignore or gaslight because it doesn’t fit your Virtue Signaling.
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