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Old 08-07-2021 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
I’ll ask you then, what determines the end of the pandemic and how do we get there?
We stop being afraid and just go back to living our lives. The virus will always be here. It will be endemic.
Old 08-07-2021 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
Not jumping in this fight since I don’t work for United, but the 96% of doctors that are vaccinated was out for a survey of 351.

Not a large sample size.

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/file...ine-report.pdf
I wonder if there are ways to find out what a minimum sample size for a population would be.

or to find out what confidence you can put in a sample of such a size
Old 08-07-2021 | 09:15 AM
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You all can argue the merits of the vaccine all you want.

The fact is, it is now a requirement of employment. The requirement appears to be in conjunction with formal approval by the CDC in Sept, thus removing many people's objection to an experimental vaccine. However, ALPA appears to be an ostrich with head firmly planted in the sand on the legality and application of the LOA.

Be prepared to not be a pilot for UAL if you choose to not get the vaccine--the medical, or religious exception will be a high threshold to meet.
Old 08-07-2021 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
You all can argue the merits of the vaccine all you want.

The fact is, it is now a requirement of employment. The requirement appears to be in conjunction with formal approval by the CDC in Sept, thus removing many people's objection to an experimental vaccine. However, ALPA appears to be an ostrich with head firmly planted in the sand on the legality and application of the LOA.

Be prepared to not be a pilot for UAL if you choose to not get the vaccine--the medical, or religious exception will be a high threshold to meet.
I don’t want anyone anywhere to lose their job/or livelihood, but as an outsider looking in i would love to watch the 10% of your pilots and whatever other unvaccinated employees refuse to be vaccinated get fired and then watch your complete operation implode. I’m guessing it would be fairly impossible to run your schedule with the sudden exit of 10% of your pilot group.
Old 08-07-2021 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Myfingershurt
I don’t want anyone anywhere to lose their job/or livelihood, but as an outsider looking in i would love to watch the 10% of your pilots and whatever other unvaccinated employees refuse to be vaccinated get fired and then watch your complete operation implode. I’m guessing it would be fairly impossible to run your schedule with the sudden exit of 10% of your pilot group.
You would be amazed at what premium pay can do for staffing.
Old 08-07-2021 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by UASCOMPILOT
Not one doctor I know has gotten the shot or their RN's...tick for tac!
Everyone of my doctor/nurse friends got vaccinated. My oncologist at NW advocated to get the shot
Old 08-07-2021 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Myfingershurt
I don’t want anyone anywhere to lose their job/or livelihood, but as an outsider looking in i would love to watch the 10% of your pilots and whatever other unvaccinated employees refuse to be vaccinated get fired and then watch your complete operation implode. I’m guessing it would be fairly impossible to run your schedule with the sudden exit of 10% of your pilot group.
HA! When faced with losing their job, they'll be lining up for the stick.... amazing how that works. All the "give me liberty or give me death" arguments will topple like a Florida condo. LOL
Old 08-07-2021 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by guppie
HA! When faced with losing their job, they'll be lining up for the stick to get fake vaccine cards printed out
Fixed it for you.
Old 08-07-2021 | 12:22 PM
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Only IAH would implode
Old 08-07-2021 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dmeg13021
Only IAH would implode
I think Texas is one of those states that does not allow vaccine mandates. That announcement has something worded in it about states that don’t allow vaccine mandates I think. I’ll have to reread it
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