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Old 08-06-2021 | 05:48 PM
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From the most recent UK COVID briefing:

UK Tech Briefing #20:
Alpha(UK) CFR = 1.07% (n=150,541)
Delta(India) CFR = 0.25% (n=300,010)
Cases doubled, deaths more than halved.

But, mandate and be afraid.
Old 08-06-2021 | 05:56 PM
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Can we derail another thread to China? They have to be getting a kick out of this. I don't for a minute think China released the Rona on purpose, but after seeing the response to it in Murica they have to be considering something in the future.
Old 08-06-2021 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
Hospitalization rates for infection are around 5.5% where I live. If I can save 1 million per 100 people infected as an insurance company I’m putting pressure on clients to mandate vaccination. Even if those cost numbers are off a bit I’m asking UAL to mandate vaccination or I’m jacking your rates up an equal amount minimum. I can’t trust your 90%. You might have 90% liar’s. That’s how that works.
5.5% of the infected are hospitalized in your area. That means nothing without context. You could be talking about a 50 mile radius that encompasses 10 people or 200,000 people.

So you'd advocate 100% vaccination to stop people from going to the hospital? What about colds, pneumonia, bronchitis? Shouldn't we stop those folks from having to go to hospital as well while we're at it?

So what do the actuaries at the insurance companies say to 100% "vaccination" with a zero data set on the long term affects of the multiple vaccines on the market?



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Old 08-06-2021 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AntiPeter
From the most recent UK COVID briefing:

UK Tech Briefing #20:
Alpha(UK) CFR = 1.07% (n=150,541)
Delta(India) CFR = 0.25% (n=300,010)
Cases doubled, deaths more than halved.

But, mandate and be afraid.
Hmmm. I wonder why the deaths have gone down.
Old 08-06-2021 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman21
5.5% of the infected are hospitalized in your area. That means nothing without context. You could be talking about a 50 mile radius that encompasses 10 people or 200,000 people.

So you'd advocate 100% vaccination to stop people from going to the hospital? What about colds, pneumonia, bronchitis? Shouldn't we stop those folks from having to go to hospital as well while we're at it?

So what do the actuaries at the insurance companies say to 100% "vaccination" with a zero data set on the long term affects of the multiple vaccines on the market?



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San county. Population 3.4 million. I’m not taking a position I’m just describing insurance adjusters risk assessment thinking when they approach your companies benefit personal to discuss rates. I understand you might have language mitigating rate increases but that doesn’t mean UAL as a company does.

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Old 08-06-2021 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
San county. Population 3.4 million. I’m not taking a position I’m just describing insurance adjusters risk assessment thinking.
Proud of you Patriots defending our freedom not get get the fauci ouchie. Hopefully this will pass and we can discuss that drunk driving only kills 10,000 people per year. That’s only 1.5% of what Covid killed last year. I’m sorry but my personal freedom should allow me to drive drunk. If you die, well, don’t infringe on my GOD given right to drink and drive. This oppressive government needs to stop!
Old 08-06-2021 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by atooraya
Proud of you Patriots defending our freedom not get get the fauci ouchie. Hopefully this will pass and we can discuss that drunk driving only kills 10,000 people per year. That’s only 1.5% of what Covid killed last year. I’m sorry but my personal freedom should allow me to drive drunk. If you die, well, don’t infringe on my GOD given right to drink and drive. This oppressive government needs to stop!
Drinking and driving doesn’t kill anyone, crashes do that. Just like exhaling doesn’t kill people either, the virus does. But if you want to prosecute people whose exhaled virus particles infected someone who dies from the virus, remember that we vaccinated are also exhaling virus that leads to deaths. Maybe you should stop breathing?
Old 08-06-2021 | 06:58 PM
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Old 08-06-2021 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
The vaccine works extremely well at keeping you from getting really sick. It's not designed to get you to pass a covid test. It's about keeping people from dying and getting hospitalized. Those headlines are all pointless. You don't understand what vaccines are for
you know what else works extremely well at preventing people from getting sick- of all things-? Being healthy. Eating well, exercising, and living a life of low stress. Has the Gov or anyone advocated for that? Nope. But make sure to get a shot that doesn't do anything more for you than if you were healthy in the first place. Btw we are going to stress you out as much as possible. Take away your ability to make a living, force you to stay inside and not socialize and then make sure you know it's your neighbor that refuses to be subjugated that is at fault.
all while making sure our parry stays in power so we can pass spending budgets that contribute almost nothing to covid but make sure our contributors get paid.
in Sept the Gov funding ends and now they need a reason to continue it so they can continue to show Americans they are th only ones who can fix this problem. Enough is enough. Free choice. Let the rest sort itself out.
Old 08-06-2021 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 86Gremlin
The FAA didn’t even approve the vaccines for pilots until March 19th. 8 - 3 = 5. I’m glad it hasn’t hurt you though. You should be a little more thoughtful about what you put in your body.
Nope, Dec. 12, 2020. I got it in January

And I was thoughtful. All of the doctors I know got it as soon as they could, I looked at the adverse event data, and decided to get it. Happy with my decision, but I still think it should be a choice for the most part
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