[QUOTE=ThumbsUp;3240392]source:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

and a commentary on what the source is saying:

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/do...id-19-vaccines[/QUOTE

Thanks

 

i dont really care whether you get it or not, but when you spread lies about it that kind of irritates me. Our industry is dependent on more people getting the vaccine.

 

Exactly how it read to the outsiders looking in. Curious if that’s as it’s written or those who don’t have the insider view maybe aren’t reading it right. Seems you lose your trip, then are prohibited from picking up other flying. Thus strong arming the pilot to comply or else possibly. Is that a wrong assumption?

 

On fleets like the 787 you could make significantly more money by not getting vaxxed and then picking up the overtime that drops daily. Even vaxxed pilots would be not submitting their cards, just for the sharpshooting. International airline pilots in 2021 on will need vaccines. UAL already requires other vaccines for certain destinations, DAL requires vaccines etc. This is preferable to forcing everyone to get a shot or lose their job.

 

And exactly how am I spreading “lies”?!? The VAERS data is what it is. Just because you disagree with it doesn’t make it a “lie”.

 

Anyone can submit and alter the data to VAERS. They will investigate each claim and throw out a large majority. What you are doing is no better than the news networks misinterpreting data to bolster a non-argument. I am on a board of ed and we currently have the most ignorant among us feeling emboldened to give "their opinion" and being offended when you point to real data.

 

Pretty irresponsible to quote the death statistics from VAERS and leave out the most important part.


Bold by me.

edit- well the whole damn thing is bold. Good luck.

 

and get it wrong all day again?

https://www.newsweek.com/moderna-covid-vaccine-ingredient-conspiracy-theory-debunked-1592553

that was you remember?


and excess death and death due covid line up pretty close in the usa, and it gets worse if you take into account the lower flu deaths.

 

Its exactly why I asked for your source. Because it’s not a scientific database with controls to answer a medical question with a methodology and data verification and analysis relative to the stated methodology. It’s a pile of information to which anyone can add whatever they want. So again, I don’t think you’re lying and you may even be right to wait, I happen to think you’re using irrelevant information and your rational of not taking the vaccine because 3000+ people have died “after” being vaccinated is ill informed.

On the side of those who are waiting, I can respect that position depending on the why. I say this because we simply don’t have long term data to show if there will be long term health related complications. I have found the research shows mRNA, although not effective at faking out cancer where it’s been tested, has been used over decades and that the mRNA technology is safe. So for that reason I felt given the unknown of both options (long term health risks of an mRNA vaccine vs a COVID19 infection) the vaccine option was less risky. Opinions vary

 

Then again, we have plenty of long term data on a host of vaccines with real side effects… and we still get them anyway. In the end, some people will have an adverse reaction, but the vast majority won’t. Probably better than actually get COVID or Anthrax or Smallpox or…