Senior FO’s are having trips bought for training which allows them to double dip or pick up premium trips if they want to chase the money. They are in control of their schedules and making good money. What incentive do they have to upgrade until they are solid line holders? Why would someone willingly give that up to be on reserve for years in bases covering multiple airports? A stripe, a new hat, and the title of captain just isn’t that big of a deal.

You make very good points. I took 320 Captain earlier this year even though, with only 14 years of seniority, I won’t hold a line for a while. I didn’t finish training before I went on LTD, so with some luck I’ll get to come back in 2023 and be a line holder Captain by then…

How did the most junior Captain go to a Jan 21 hire? Advancement date past his probation date?

Where is the requirement to be off of probation mentioned? FOM 1.10.3 gives the flight time requirements for initial upgrade, but has no mention of time on property.

It is in the UPA.

with Covid reduced flying and SRL’s/Cola’s etc easy to see how many new pilots aren’t eligible yet to bid Captain.

8-I-1 Only pilots who have met the basic prerequisite piloting requirements for Air Line Transport Pilot Certificate, including successful completion of the ATP written examination and notification to the Company of such completion, and who have at least five hundred (500) hours of Flight Time at United Airlines and have completed the period of probation in accordance with Section 6-C shall be eligible to bid or displace into Captain Categories.

Thanks. I actually looked at the CBA too but must have read right past that.

But it's eligible to bid.. so still unsure how that worked out

We were hiring in January '21? I thought the first new-hire class after the pause was in May '21.

Correct, must mean '20

It looks like we had a class Jan 20th of 21 from the board date but that is a Wed. Right around 12500 on the list.