Agreement In Principle
05-13-2022 | 03:23 PM
#61
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Be careful, the ALPA spin machine is very, very convincing to many. I predict a TA that underwhelms at the beginning and once the ALPA machine starts spinning they’ll have their 51% once it’s time for a vote.
For the record I’ve voted NO on every TA since I’ve been here. The ALPA spin machine just makes me a firmer no.
BTW I’m not saying you will change your mind…just giving commentary. Hoping we’re both pleasantly surprised.
For the record I’ve voted NO on every TA since I’ve been here. The ALPA spin machine just makes me a firmer no.
BTW I’m not saying you will change your mind…just giving commentary. Hoping we’re both pleasantly surprised.
05-13-2022 | 03:43 PM
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05-13-2022 | 04:10 PM
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for starters, I’m curious how they’re going to explain away the fact that the messaging has consistently been all about “ we need to show consistent profitability before we sign a deal. This isn’t the right time.” Hell, the MEC message from a week or so again said that the company’s proposal wasn’t close to meeting the needs of our pilot group. So are we to believe that Kirby just did a 180 and said ok to our scope, work rule, retirement, and pay proposals? The heat map last week showed ZERO progress on section 1. Just smells fishy, that’s all. I really do hope I’m wrong, and we hit a home run.
05-13-2022 | 04:34 PM
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I expect to see vote counting “carve-outs”. That has been the nature of every agreement in the recent past. Both the company and union will say “this is the best thing since buttered toast, and the best we can hope for in an industry leading contract under the current economy.” Carve-outs to pass every extension and LOA have been the MO for the last several years. Does anyone remember the summer of 2000 when no one picked up open flying and flew the contract? I do. It was ugly. I hope to not see it again, but am prepared. Do we have the resolve we had then if required?
05-13-2022 | 04:37 PM
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for starters, I’m curious how they’re going to explain away the fact that the messaging has consistently been all about “ we need to show consistent profitability before we sign a deal. This isn’t the right time.” Hell, the MEC message from a week or so again said that the company’s proposal wasn’t close to meeting the needs of our pilot group. So are we to believe that Kirby just did a 180 and said ok to our scope, work rule, retirement, and pay proposals? The heat map last week showed ZERO progress on section 1. Just smells fishy, that’s all. I really do hope I’m wrong, and we hit a home run.
I’m with you on being skeptical. Just maybe the pilot shortage finally has arrived.
05-13-2022 | 04:54 PM
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Compounded on an annual basis? Monthly basis? Both? Some other way?
I understand why one would go with compounded, but it's likely that the 20% number will be spread over 3 years and is additive. And then you probably need to calculate 2022 full year, 2023, and 2024 inflation.
I understand why one would go with compounded, but it's likely that the 20% number will be spread over 3 years and is additive. And then you probably need to calculate 2022 full year, 2023, and 2024 inflation.
The inflation data in the manner you presented it would be compounded annually, then monthly. If you just simply use the inflation calculator on the BLS site, it seems like it compounds monthly and gives a slightly higher number.
05-13-2022 | 05:01 PM
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Copy that. I didn't see an inflation calculator; I only found annual and monthly numbers. I hope the link to bls helped.
05-13-2022 | 05:16 PM
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“They’ll never use airport standby. “In this economy that’s the best we can do.” And the most famous “we’ll get them next time”.
05-13-2022 | 06:24 PM
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