C11 LEC Chair Changes his mind

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06-28-2022 | 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

He can be a good guy and an inept negotiator. That certainly isn’t mutually exclusive. I have a good friend who is a wonderful person but a truly $hitty poker player. He just can’t read the other players. And this is a darn high stakes game.

Sometimes you need to bring your best…

is he one of the negotiators? I don’t think so, he simply passed it on to the pilots to vote. He isn’t trying to sell it now the he realizes the used car salesman duped him.

06-28-2022 | 09:17 PM

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DoubleDoink

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I for one I'm happy they put this agreement forward for us to vote on. I don't understand all the gnashing of teeth over this. All we have to do is do our job now and vote this thing down 90 to 10. That will send a clear message to our Union, the company, the industry and our fellow pilots that we won't accept substandard contracts anymore. So simply vote no and this will all be taken care of in 2 weeks.

06-28-2022 | 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun

Jim is a good guy. For him to write that letter isn’t easy and reflects the person he is. For those who think he’s trying to save his hide I seriously doubt that. He’s not an ALPA political lifer.

What he did was extremely courageous.

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06-28-2022 | 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by A320fumes

What he did was extremely courageous.

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Last ditch effort to switch to the majority.

06-28-2022 | 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BannedoftheHand

Last ditch effort to switch to the majority.

Somehow I doubt this was politically motivated. More than likely got caught up in the sales job, then actually started listening to his F/O Rep.

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06-29-2022 | 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 5spot

who was the other to cave? Have not heard of that one yet. Hoping this is 1 of many. Recall resolutions are ready to go.

oh everyone knows Council 5 Chair supported this and once he knew it had the votes to pass he cast a no vote knowing it was potentially garbage to the average line pilot. Very smart move but this T/A is on him just as much. Just like the Council 11 Chair etc.

06-29-2022 | 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BannedoftheHand

Last ditch effort to switch to the majority.

LOL. Exactly. He’s trying to save his own skin now. Give me a break. All this money and finally he listens to the line pilots. No polling nothing since pre pandemic give me a freaking break. Union rep votes yes to eliminate union jobs at the “qualified” discretion of management. POS! Needs to resign ASAP.

06-29-2022 | 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by UALinIAH

I’m saying this CA publicly put out that he screwed up and is trying to make it right. He’s not out there every day playing used car salesman like the NC and Brad are and doubling down on this TA. So yes I think people screw up and when they own it sometimes they deserve a second chance. I may be in the minority and I’m as firm a No voter as you’ll find, but I still think second chances can be earned. I don’t care if it take 6-18 months. Our current contract is light years ahead on QOL/QOWL and I’d rather have it than the TA. If he believes what he wrote then he’s actually an asset to the pilots of C11.

Just my humble opinion.

I’ll put on my flame suit now lol

He clearly is in over his head as a union rep when a freakin union rep votes to give management the ability to eliminate union jobs through “qualified” whatever determined by management. He’s a freakin moron simple as that. Get his freaking butt outta there!! Clearly a lazy rep. Couldn’t even figure that one out on his own. How much freakin FPL have we paid this clown to vote for the elimination of union jobs at a union.

06-29-2022 | 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by A320fumes

Somehow I doubt this was politically motivated. More than likely got caught up in the sales job, then actually started listening to his F/O Rep.

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Very likely.

We all know some pilots will vote based upon the vote of the LEC. Granted a little murky in C11. Nonetheless, knowing your public stance will affect voting, how would you feel if you reversed your decision but kept it to yourself?

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06-29-2022 | 03:30 AM

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Uh, no!

This guy is trying to save his 94.5 hours per month. He had no problems with PRA 2020, as well as the myriad of LOAs and MOUs that were given away by Todd Insler in 2020 and 2021.

This guy is part of the 16 vote majority that Insler enjoyed to pass those LOAs and MOUs at MIDNIGHT, without discussing it with the rest of the MEC because they already had the votes to give Kirby whatever he wanted.

With Hamilton, it was still business as usual, until…

NOW.

No one wants this POS TA, and now the guy’s sorry, he didn’t know, etc.

BULL EFFIN SHT!

REJECT AND RECALL.