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Old 07-26-2022 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by KnightNight
My guess would be that would be challenged in court as age discrimination.
Even if it’s voted in favor by a majority of membership? That sounds like a waiver to any discrimination complaints.
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Old 07-26-2022 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Myfingershurt
Even if it’s voted in favor by a majority of membership? That sounds like a waiver to any discrimination complaints.
What if we voted not to allow women or racial minorities on the seniority list? You can’t waive the rights of a protected group just by agreeing on it.
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Old 07-26-2022 | 06:41 AM
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It should mirror Social Security & Medicare/Medicaid retirement ages. Anything else is discriminatory.
If they can pass an FAA Class 1 Medical every six months, then they should be good to go. There are many who can't well before those ages.

Forcing pilots onto Cobra or other insurance for two years before qualifying for stuff they've paid into their entire careers is wrong. Hopefully most won't need it, but the choice should be theirs.

It's really wrong in this day and age to have age limits. That goes for FAA and other government jobs as well. If you are fit and can pass the tests and medicals, then go for it.

Do Doctors or Lawyers have mandatory retirement? Do judges? Politicians? I know plenty of cops, firemen, EMT's who would loved to have continued working, even if it were only a desk job doing administrative duty....
if they can pass testing, then why not?

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Old 07-26-2022 | 06:47 AM
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wow there are a lot of selfish Karens in this profession... sheesh, I didn't realize how bad it really was.
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Old 07-26-2022 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
I'm listening. What makes this time different? What circumstances are different?
If anything, the pilot shortage is more acute today than it was 15 years ago.
What makes it different is that as time ICAO had already approved the increase.

This time, if it passes (it won't), the most senior pilots, who are most likely to be on WB international, won't be allowed to fly internationally.

For those who say ICAO will have to follow the US, the track record of the world thumbing their nose at the US is pretty long over the last few years. The USA is now seen as the Florida of the world. Nobody cares what we think.
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Old 07-26-2022 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville;[url=tel:3467028
3467028[/url]]What makes it different is that as time ICAO had already approved the increase.

This time, if it passes (it won't), the most senior pilots, who are most likely to be on WB international, won't be allowed to fly internationally.

For those who say ICAO will have to follow the US, the track record of the world thumbing their nose at the US is pretty long over the last few years. The USA is now seen as the Florida of the world. Nobody cares what we think.
It’ll be glorious…

”We can all stay to age 67 now!”

Heres your guppy training dates.

”Wait, whut?”
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Old 07-26-2022 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
It’ll be glorious…

”We can all stay to age 67 now!”

Heres your guppy training dates.

”Wait, whut?”
Yup. Plus trip drops without pay if your trip touches Mexico, Canada, the islands, or South/Central America. Bid accordingly, gramps.
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Old 07-26-2022 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Yup. Plus trip drops without pay if your trip touches Mexico, Canada, the islands, or South/Central America. Bid accordingly, gramps.
PBS could easily be programed to not award any int'l to them.
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Old 07-26-2022 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
PBS could easily be programed to not award any int'l to them.

Yes, but not with a hit to seniority. Not all guys 65+ would be more senior than the guy 65 or less. Don't want to go to MEX? Sorry, 66 year old Larry can’t go there. He’s junior to you, but you have to take it.
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Old 07-26-2022 | 07:58 AM
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They’d be much more comfortable in Sioux Falls anyway.
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