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Old 08-30-2022 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by A320fumes
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Really??? Go read yours and other comments describing this pilot group to justify your argument. Obtw, it’s called Schedule History.

For those who’ve never seen the Schedule History page you should take a look. Especially the ones on reserve.

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Old 08-30-2022 | 08:13 AM
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We aren’t cohesive as a group. FedEx has been in contact negotiations far less time than we have and they aren’t picking up open time because of negotiations. Ask your friends. Conversely, PP works so well here that SK himself is talking about how it’s at 20% of the trips covered and he wants to reduce it.
The overtime *****s at FedEx are alive and well. It is amazing how many there are and we have our calendar blockers as well. The calendar blockers are mostly overtime ***** too, go figure.
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Old 08-30-2022 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun
Really??? Go read yours and other comments describing this pilot group to justify your argument. Obtw, it’s called Schedule History.

We’ll, I had been on the fence with schedule blocking/unblocking. After reviewing the entire thread, I’m definitely in the blocked category now. Thanks for the evolution


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Old 08-30-2022 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by A320fumes
We’ll, I had been on the fence with schedule blocking/unblocking. After reviewing the entire thread, I’m definitely in the blocked category now. Thanks for the evolution


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Classic yet sadly amusing. You convinced yourself with your own words.
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Old 08-30-2022 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by A320fumes
We’ll, I had been on the fence with schedule blocking/unblocking. After reviewing the entire thread, I’m definitely in the blocked category now. Thanks for the evolution


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I'm curious as to your logic?. You have said all that info is readily available and much easier accessed? If so, what good does blocking your schedule do?
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Old 08-30-2022 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
I'm curious as to your logic?. You have said all that info is readily available and much easier accessed? If so, what good does blocking your schedule do?

The opinions expressed here honestly. We had to negotiate under the UALALPA injunction, which if you remember was the result of a few guys checking other Pilots schedules under the guise of seeking transparency and then taking it too far. How soon we forget. That hurt us at the table. And in this thread I’m hearing the same flawed logic. Honestly, I wish they all were blocked.


In the end, the rules only affect honest folks, so it won’t make a difference.

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Old 08-30-2022 | 10:08 AM
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I strongly suggest people look up the injunction before accepting revisionist history.

“We had to negotiate under the UALALPA injunction, which if you remember was the result of a few guys checking other Pilots schedules under the guise of seeking transparency and then taking it too far.”

As flawed as it is, your cherry picking narrative does conveniently fit your argument

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-7th-circuit/1381546.html

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Old 08-30-2022 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun
As flawed as it is, your cherry picking narrative does conveniently fit your argument

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-7th-circuit/1381546.html

It certainly does fit my argument. So far, the anti-block crowd has suggested that blocking one’s schedule is tantamount to scabbing, that line Pilots should “police” each other’s schedules to make sure they were getting treated fairly and that in the aforementioned case-law , that the gentlemen concerned didn’t actually check other Pilots schedules.

Time after time former Reps have stated, through experience, the problems with checking other Pilot’s schedules. It’s pretty obvious where and from whom the problems with checking schedules would occur.

I suggest that you bring forth a resolution to make all schedules visible. If it passes, then there’s no reason for this ridiculous thread. If not, same same.

Different paradigm between Pilots. Even when I served on the MEC and occasionally needed to, it always felt a little dirty and intrusive to check another Pilots master schedule. It always seemed cleaner to track the trip, not the Pilot.


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Old 08-30-2022 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by A320fumes
It certainly does fit my argument. So far, the anti-block crowd has suggested that blocking one’s schedule is tantamount to scabbing, that line Pilots should “police” each other’s schedules to make sure they were getting treated fairly and that in the aforementioned case-law , that the gentlemen concerned didn’t actually check other Pilots schedules.

Time after time former Reps have stated, through experience, the problems with checking other Pilot’s schedules. It’s pretty obvious where and from whom the problems with checking schedules would occur.

I suggest that you bring forth a resolution to make all schedules visible. If it passes, then there’s no reason for this ridiculous thread. If not, same same.

Different paradigm between Pilots. Even when I served on the MEC and occasionally needed to, it always felt a little dirty and intrusive to check another Pilots master schedule. It always seemed cleaner to track the trip, not the Pilot.


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Do I feel that strongly? Not really. More of a preference with a simple example. You and others have blown it way way out of proportion to suit your desire.

As for now, I just enjoy calling out your misinformation like a few guys “checking schedules” caused an injunction. Again B, it’s called Schedule History. At least you can get the terminology correct.
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Old 08-30-2022 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun
Do I feel that strongly? Not really. More of a preference with a simple example. You and others have blown it way way out of proportion to suit your desire.

As for now, I just enjoy calling out your misinformation like a few guys “checking schedules” caused an injunction. Again B, it’s called Schedule History. At least you can get the terminology correct.

Misinformation?

Maybe everyone is out to get you?

The need to Police your peers is urgent.

I bet someone stole a trip while you were posting.

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