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Old 08-26-2022 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Just for something to think about, we at DAL don’t have an option to “block” our schedule and I hope we never do. We can see who viewed our schedule and when. There is nothing private or personal that can be seen. It’s been helpful in answering “why did I get this trip and this guy didn’t” or “why did he get this and I didn’t.”
At DAL, you can block your schedule, but it takes an act of Congress (IE MEC action).
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Old 08-27-2022 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by fadec
We are ALPA. Ensuring contract compliance is a team effort. We're not going to PDR every trip we don't get, are we? Transparency is essential. No special privilege!!!

I had to field calls almost on a daily basis, from Pilots who thought someone else was “victimizing’ them because they looked at someone else’s schedule and felt that they were being shorted some how. Same few guys/gals every time. Never, I repeat Never Not Once we’re these self-appointed auditors correct in their analysis of the other Pilot’s schedule.

Out of curiosity, how much “special treatment” have you been able to discover while screening your fellow Pilot’s work schedule?

Just seems like a tragic waste of one’s off time to me. Like I said, I don’t care one way or the other. As a solid line holder, I have as little interaction with crew scheduling as possible; but I will state that I’ve found the schedulers to be quite honest. Not saying that they don’t exploit the weaknesses in our UPA, but I’ve never caught one willfully lying to give “special treatment “ to another Pilot.

I do agree with you that we are ALPA. I think that you’re in favor of schedule transparency for honest utilization. I’m only referencing the few bad apples out there who have nefarious or paranoid purposes for viewing another Pilot’s schedule…we’re probably talking apples and oranges.


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Old 08-27-2022 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by fadec
We are ALPA. Ensuring contract compliance is a team effort. We're not going to PDR every trip we don't get, are we? Transparency is essential. No special privilege!!!
Look up the pairing and see who got the trip, you can then look up their seniority. Not sure what viewing someone’s entire schedule has to do with this.
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Old 08-27-2022 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by A320fumes
I had to field calls almost on a daily basis, from Pilots who thought someone else was “victimizing’ them because they looked at someone else’s schedule and felt that they were being shorted some how. Same few guys/gals every time. Never, I repeat Never Not Once we’re these self-appointed auditors correct in their analysis of the other Pilot’s schedule.

Out of curiosity, how much “special treatment” have you been able to discover while screening your fellow Pilot’s work schedule?

Just seems like a tragic waste of one’s off time to me. Like I said, I don’t care one way or the other. As a solid line holder, I have as little interaction with crew scheduling as possible; but I will state that I’ve found the schedulers to be quite honest. Not saying that they don’t exploit the weaknesses in our UPA, but I’ve never caught one willfully lying to give “special treatment “ to another Pilot.

I do agree with you that we are ALPA. I think that you’re in favor of schedule transparency for honest utilization. I’m only referencing the few bad apples out there who have nefarious or paranoid purposes for viewing another Pilot’s schedule…we’re probably talking apples and oranges.
At DAL, there is a fairly rigid way how flying is assigned, and there is healthy amount of surveillance by the pilots on how trips are covered, which is viewable in our scheduling system. We have an app that allows you to report scheduling hijinks to the Scheduling Committee fairly easily, and it is analyzed, and many times pilots are paid on the basis of what someone else reported. Kind of a crowdsourced solution, but sometimes the payout is substantial. 10-15 hours is not uncommon and there have been much larger payments.

If you view someone's schedule or personal data, your line is tagged with who did it and when.
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Old 08-27-2022 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fadec
Blocking your calendar is basically the same thing as not wearing your ALPA pin.

ive never blocked my schedule but what you said is completely false.
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Old 08-27-2022 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
At DAL, there is a fairly rigid way how flying is assigned, and there is healthy amount of surveillance by the pilots on how trips are covered, which is viewable in our scheduling system. We have an app that allows you to report scheduling hijinks to the Scheduling Committee fairly easily, and it is analyzed, and many times pilots are paid on the basis of what someone else reported. Kind of a crowdsourced solution, but sometimes the payout is substantial. 10-15 hours is not uncommon and there have been much larger payments.

If you view someone's schedule or personal data, your line is tagged with who did it and when.

At United, there are at least a dozen ways to verify the same information, and more, without pulling a guy’s schedule. In fact, pulling another Pilot’s schedule is probably the least effective way to track trip assignments.


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Old 08-27-2022 | 03:59 PM
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From a security mindset, why would I want to tell 14000+ swinging $%!#s at United when I’m not home? No offense…just sayin.
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Old 08-27-2022 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by HiPlaneDrifter
From a security mindset, why would I want to tell 14000+ swinging $%!#s at United when I’m not home? No offense…just sayin.
Ladies and gentlemen, a union brother? ^^^^^

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Old 08-27-2022 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fadec
Blocking your calendar is basically the same thing as not wearing your ALPA pin.
Originally Posted by A320
ive never blocked my schedule but what you said is completely false.
Hate to disagree with you B. Again, we were mentored differently. It’s a matter of trust and supporting the group. Wearing the pin says I have your back. Note post #37. Somehow that mentality doesn’t have my back.
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Old 08-27-2022 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by scns77
or for specific personal reasons.

"Nuff said" I don't need to give any other reason to anyone
Exactly, my calendar, my choice.
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