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Old 09-06-2022 | 05:12 PM
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Regional wages, like the price of gas and groceries and building materials, are unsustainable and unreasonable. It would be irresponsible of us to demand such an unsustainable and unreasonable wage increase. 50%-100% is just too damn high. We may need to strike.in the future, but it should be for something reasonable like 5%, not some crazy increase like everything else. Everything has gone crazy now and you guys just want to make it worse. Let cool heads prevail.
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Old 09-06-2022 | 05:13 PM
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Hello All-

I'm a 2000 hr, ATP ME private pilot with multiple regional airline offers. I am older than most FO candidates (early 50s). I am trying to decide on the best path to realize my life-long dream of flying for United Airlines. Does anybody know what percentage of new, UA FO hiring comes from the following?

1) United Express carriers (via Aviate)
2) National carriers (i.e., Spirit/Jet Blue)
3) Non-United Express regional carriers

Also - can you recommend the regional that you think is best for making it to United in the shortest amount of time? I know that there are a lot of moving pieces these days with the regionals/comp structures/legacy contracts being cancelled or moved.

I would really appreciate any wisdom/insight regarding the current market.

Thank you VERY much-
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Old 09-06-2022 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fadec
Regional wages, like the price of gas and groceries and building materials, are unsustainable and unreasonable. It would be irresponsible of us to demand such an unsustainable and unreasonable wage increase. 50%-100% is just too damn high. We may need to strike.in the future, but it should be for something reasonable like 5%, not some crazy increase like everything else. Everything has gone crazy now and you guys just want to make it worse. Let cool heads prevail.
UA ALPA doesn’t have to strike, they can just say no to every lowball offer until next year and Kirby will have to park the Max 10, 321 Neo and XLR and 350s UA takes delivery of if pay scales for them don’t exist in the contract. It seems to have worked for Delta in the past…
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Old 09-06-2022 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Gen3Aviator
Hello All-

I'm a 2000 hr, ATP ME private pilot with multiple regional airline offers. I am older than most FO candidates (early 50s). I am trying to decide on the best path to realize my life-long dream of flying for United Airlines. Does anybody know what percentage of new, UA FO hiring comes from the following?

1) United Express carriers (via Aviate)
2) National carriers (i.e., Spirit/Jet Blue)
3) Non-United Express regional carriers

Also - can you recommend the regional that you think is best for making it to United in the shortest amount of time? I know that there are a lot of moving pieces these days with the regionals/comp structures/legacy contracts being cancelled or moved.

I would really appreciate any wisdom/insight regarding the current market.

Thank you VERY much-
Seemed like 3,2,1 before the new pay rates at the regionals… potentially 2,3,1 going forward​​​​​​.

Lots of folks going from the AA wholly Owned to United and Delta on a weekly basis.
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Old 09-06-2022 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
UA ALPA doesn’t have to strike, they can just say no to every lowball offer until next year and Kirby will have to park the Max 10, 321 Neo and XLR and 350s UA takes delivery of if pay scales for them don’t exist in the contract. It seems to have worked for Delta in the past…
You are completely wrong. Read the contract.
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Old 09-06-2022 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by serce
Are you serious?
I'm completely serious. He got an offer to double his pay and came on the forum to tell us all about it...so why not take that deal?
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Old 09-06-2022 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by fadec
We may need to strike.in the future, but it should be for something reasonable like 5%, not some crazy increase like everything else.
You want to strike for 5%? Just call your rep & tell him you want a chance to vote yes on TA1. You’ll get your 5 and a TUMI bag to go with it.

Are you for real, or does my internet snark-meter need recalibration?
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Old 09-06-2022 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by fadec
Regional wages, like the price of gas and groceries and building materials, are unsustainable and unreasonable. It would be irresponsible of us to demand such an unsustainable and unreasonable wage increase. 50%-100% is just too damn high. We may need to strike.in the future, but it should be for something reasonable like 5%, not some crazy increase like everything else. Everything has gone crazy now and you guys just want to make it worse. Let cool heads prevail.
that’s not how this works. Eat a bag of &$@“!
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Old 09-06-2022 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
I'm completely serious. He got an offer to double his pay and came on the forum to tell us all about it...so why not take that deal?
because with MEC 2.0 we will be better off here
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Old 09-06-2022 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gen3Aviator
Hello All-

I'm a 2000 hr, ATP ME private pilot with multiple regional airline offers. I am older than most FO candidates (early 50s). I am trying to decide on the best path to realize my life-long dream of flying for United Airlines. Does anybody know what percentage of new, UA FO hiring comes from the following?

1) United Express carriers (via Aviate)
2) National carriers (i.e., Spirit/Jet Blue)
3) Non-United Express regional carriers

Also - can you recommend the regional that you think is best for making it to United in the shortest amount of time? I know that there are a lot of moving pieces these days with the regionals/comp structures/legacy contracts being cancelled or moved.

I would really appreciate any wisdom/insight regarding the current market.

Thank you VERY much-
This isn't the right thread for this post at all but I assume you can't apply directly to United? (why?) I know of several people in their 50s who are new hires so I don't think age is a huge thing but I'm sure it's a consideration. Nail the interview and you should be ok. I'm coming from the 91/135 side so I have zero 121 time.
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