The Worst’er
10-16-2022 | 03:46 PM
#32
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I rarely comment about this type of stuff, but one thing I've noticed is that as a younger post merger hire, it always seems like the company has its stuff together and the union is a never ending **** show dumpster fire. And with all the politicking going on right now, I can't imagine new guys have a lot of faith in their representation.
With the company rapidly turning over its seniority list, the young dudes are going to reach critical mass in short order, and I have to imagine the distaste in how everyone has handled themselves this year will have a powerful impact on future votes.
With the company rapidly turning over its seniority list, the young dudes are going to reach critical mass in short order, and I have to imagine the distaste in how everyone has handled themselves this year will have a powerful impact on future votes.
This. I am brand spankin' new...first contract, prior mil. Lots of "this never happens" type drama. Feels like high school or something. Pathetic. Pretty much a joke that's tough to ignore when every Captain has a different opinion on it. These elected "representatives" are acting like degenerates. Clean slate. New blood. Across the board. You have 2500+ very impressionable new hires that will be the majority soon. Stop embarrassing yourselves, step aside, and lets get this done.
10-16-2022 | 03:49 PM
#33
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Should probably have block reps instead of CA/FO Reps. I'm sure it would require a change to the constitution or by-laws but something to consider going forward. It would clear out some of the super senior people who are F/O Reps and have people more representative of the pilot group.
10-17-2022 | 03:59 AM
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From: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
I rarely comment about this type of stuff, but one thing I've noticed is that as a younger post merger hire, it always seems like the company has its stuff together and the union is a never ending **** show dumpster fire. And with all the politicking going on right now, I can't imagine new guys have a lot of faith in their representation.
With the company rapidly turning over its seniority list, the young dudes are going to reach critical mass in short order, and I have to imagine the distaste in how everyone has handled themselves this year will have a powerful impact on future votes.
With the company rapidly turning over its seniority list, the young dudes are going to reach critical mass in short order, and I have to imagine the distaste in how everyone has handled themselves this year will have a powerful impact on future votes.
10-17-2022 | 04:53 AM
#38
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Trust in institutions as a whole is in decline. Media, universities, corporations, govt, big pharma/medical. Its not just ALPA.
10-17-2022 | 05:09 AM
#39
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From: 787 FO
The last six years of rampant abuse of power and corruption is unprecedented as is the wave of recalls. The line pilots obviously get it.
10-17-2022 | 06:09 AM
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From: The GF of FUPM
As USUAL, the RUMORS floating out just before Heppner's contract TA were horrendous. And as USUAL, they proved to be very ACCURATE. I am reminded of the 60 Minutes piece on our bankruptcy when spreyregen spoke about "managing expectations" I believe that the rumors were designed and released to allow the miasma to settle in slowly. To reduce expectations and let hot heads cool
Pilot spittle was flying around the crew room! Guys were ****ed. Meanwhile, the NOT SO SMART guys who wanted you to believe they were IN THE KNOW told us that we were FOS and that their buddy WHO KNEW A GUY assured them that the rumors were BS. Fast forward to day 4 of my trip. We were at the gate in SFO and guess who walks into the cockpit in jeans and a polo? Jay Heppner, the Grande Pooh-bah.
Jay says, "good news boys, we've got our TA" My BIG C Captain began asking specific questions about a few of the UGLYier rumors. Jay just shook his head "NO" over and over while holding his hands out wide as if he were holding a huge pie. "It's all there, It's all there" is all he would say. My Captain persisted. So did Jay, never answering his questions. "It's all there"
Guess what? A week or so later we are voting on a concessionary POS TA filled with "rumors". Two weeks later it passes. My disgust with the union (of which I used to be a proud member) began that day.
I REALLY thought that Insler would force positive change based on his performance as grievance chair. Nope. As far as I am concerned, UA-ALPA has been all downhill since that day in SFO. But insler has tilted the board solidly in UA's favor. He has fractured the group and lowered expectations. You guys have a LOT of work ahead of you. But it's nice to see the revolt. TumiTA was an abomination.
