5% Pay Raise Effective Dec 1st
11-14-2022 | 06:14 AM
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Couldn't agree more and I hope you are on the "other" forum as well 
BUT . . .
real politik will rule the day and no amount of inflation or whatever will matter. What matters is what has happened in the recent past, and the only gauge is the Alaska contract so that is what we can expect at Delta, United, and American. Alaska + a tiny thing. What does that mean? It means a 20 to 25% pay raise and no QOL gives and a few tiny QOL gains. Alaska voted like 78 or something close to 80% yes, I think . . . going from memory here.
BUT . . .
real politik will rule the day and no amount of inflation or whatever will matter. What matters is what has happened in the recent past, and the only gauge is the Alaska contract so that is what we can expect at Delta, United, and American. Alaska + a tiny thing. What does that mean? It means a 20 to 25% pay raise and no QOL gives and a few tiny QOL gains. Alaska voted like 78 or something close to 80% yes, I think . . . going from memory here.
11-14-2022 | 09:55 AM
#92
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We will need a lot more than what Alaska got to get over 50%....we need to start working on getting released 2 years down the road so we can shut this thing down and get a real pay raise with real retro and only quality of life enhancements. If anyone thinks we are going to get anything worth a yes vote in 2023 they are naive...
11-14-2022 | 10:57 AM
#93
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We will need a lot more than what Alaska got to get over 50%....we need to start working on getting released 2 years down the road so we can shut this thing down and get a real pay raise with real retro and only quality of life enhancements. If anyone thinks we are going to get anything worth a yes vote in 2023 they are naive...
Like I've said several times recently I have a terrible track record on guessing ALPA politics correctly, but I'll take the over on that bet and say UAL pilots will have an agreed to TA by Spring '23. Since the Tumi TA came out I have yet to fly with one pilot that echoes the high expectations I see online. I've even flown with several guys that admitted they were yes at first and only later changed to no when it was clear a resounding "NO" was called for. Not gonna cry a river if it does in fact drag on, but as of now my guess is our CEO would prefer that it NOT drag out, and truthfully he holds all the cards at the moment and seems to be running circles around U-ALPA. We shall see . . .
11-14-2022 | 01:25 PM
#94
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Like I've said several times recently I have a terrible track record on guessing ALPA politics correctly, but I'll take the over on that bet and say UAL pilots will have an agreed to TA by Spring '23. Since the Tumi TA came out I have yet to fly with one pilot that echoes the high expectations I see online. I've even flown with several guys that admitted they were yes at first and only later changed to no when it was clear a resounding "NO" was called for. Not gonna cry a river if it does in fact drag on, but as of now my guess is our CEO would prefer that it NOT drag out, and truthfully he holds all the cards at the moment and seems to be running circles around U-ALPA. We shall see . . .
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