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12-15-2022 | 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by johnwick

FiFi no doubt has her quirks, but in the 4000 hours I’ve flown her I have never seen those things, other than the +/- 20 kts in managed speed. But I will take the A320 and all her quirkiness all day, every day and twice on Sunday rather than fly the guppy with its Apollo 13 overhead panel.

“Apollo 13 overhead panel” -lmao

Power unrelated to throttle position will always be a non-normal to me.

12-15-2022 | 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 01110011

I’m sensing a lot of “I didn’t bother to study the flight logic and I’ve hurt myself in my confusion.” 😂

Experienced vs Inexperienced Airbus Pilot

Inexperienced Pilot asks- “What is it doing???”

Experienced Pilot says- “It’s doing that thing again.”

12-15-2022 | 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by APCHCLIMB

Experienced vs Inexperienced Airbus Pilot

Inexperienced Pilot asks- “What is it doing???”

Experienced Pilot says- “It’s doing that thing again.”

Now that’s funny right there 🙃

12-15-2022 | 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by UALFlyer

Okay, the subset of 737NG has a slightly better record than the A320 series in its entirety. Not exactly apples to apples, so it should be by your definition only A320 series made during the same timeframe as they 737 NGs. I can guess how that would turn out.

The bigger question, is do you really think the 737 is a safer plane than the A320?

I think it's every bit as safe for people with some experience. If you have to higher 500 hour pilots who have never driven a car, then yes, bus protects you from being an idiot.

12-15-2022 | 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GPullR

I think it's every bit as safe for people with some experience. If you have to higher 500 hour pilots who have never driven a car, then yes, bus protects you from being an idiot.

So if I understand what you're saying, is if you are an "experienced pilot", which is some undefined thing, the 737 is "as safe", or parity. However, if you are a "inexperienced" pilot the A320 is a safer plane.

Thanks, you answered the question even though you tried not too.

Cheers

12-15-2022 | 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Meekrob

that and you can’t flush the lav without it

Actually, the toilets flush just fine without the APU running (on the Bus). Thats a separate pump. However, if you want to wash your hands without bleed air pressure, then you had better not pee on your hands!! ;-)

12-15-2022 | 08:36 AM

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Also none of this is a problem at all if you don’t strip the airplane of every single optional item (ie brake fans, electric pumps for the water) to save 30 pounds.

12-15-2022 | 09:10 AM

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I think it's every bit as safe for people with some experience. If you have to higher 500 hour pilots who have never driven a car, then yes, bus protects you from being an idiot.

that was the design principle for the bus. It was designed for the lowest common denominator. Airbus realized that a lot of growth is in emerging markets.

12-15-2022 | 10:03 AM

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that was the design principle for the bus. It was designed for the lowest common denominator. Airbus realized that a lot of growth is in emerging markets.

Yet relatively minor failures cause a loss of the autopilot resulting in a significant workload increase for said “lowest common denominator” all whilst flipping between the ECAM and paper checklist and pressing buttons for systems that will never come back.

12-15-2022 | 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 01110011

Also none of this is a problem at all if you don’t strip the airplane of every single optional item (ie brake fans, electric pumps for the water) to save 30 pounds.

They didn’t buy brake fans for the NEOs either, but they did purchase an aural alert for runway overshoot. I doubt they will have CPDLC as well.