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03-29-2023 | 01:49 PM

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You obviously haven't been here very long. This place with work rules and no contract for 4 years is a complete joke. A fraction of what it used to . New guys drooling over themselves because they got hired at a time that anybody with a pulse could get hired and seniority progression has been unheard of. Management treats us like a step or 2 under most regionals and laughs all the way to the bank.

Been here long enough, been in the industry long enough, worked outside of this industry to know it’s far from a dumpster fire.

03-30-2023 | 04:35 AM

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If the economy takes a dump. Who do you guys think is a safer place. Are they both too big to fail? AA has a lot of debt. UA has taken a lot of debt.

03-30-2023 | 06:19 AM

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Philadelphia as a city has greatly improved over the years with a huge influx of yuppies moving in for lots of cheap housing and a growing food/art scene. Vacant lots in fringe neighborhoods that sold for 5k in 2010 now go for 90k. There are multiple Fortune 500 companies and endless monied suburbs feeding the airport. Big money being thrown at the river front and spec housing in former ghettos. Actual foreign tourists too

your description more closely resembles Baltimore than filthadelphia

03-30-2023 | 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Needabetterjob

If the economy takes a dump. Who do you guys think is a safer place. Are they both too big to fail? AA has a lot of debt. UA has taken a lot of debt.

Yes, next question

03-30-2023 | 07:19 AM

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AA is absolutely too big to fail in any normal bankruptcy situation

Bond holders and lessors get wiped out, somebody will absolutely buy the assets for $2billion or whatever

03-30-2023 | 07:25 AM

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AA is absolutely too big to fail in any normal bankruptcy situation

Bond holders and lessors get wiped out, somebody will absolutely buy the assets for $2billion or whatever

AA, UAL, DL are all about the same size both with the pilot group and debt. AA and UA have almost identical long term debt. AA is focusing on paying down said debt. UA is focusing on rebuilding their fleet and going into more debt by growing both the fleet and pilot group.

We’re all “too big to fail”… just like Bear Stearns and Lehman brothers... The survivors of a major economic downfall would probably be the ULCC’s but that’s after they furloughed the majority of their list.

03-30-2023 | 07:40 AM

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If world war III starts anything could happen.

What I’m saying is that if American needs to restructure its debt, they’re not gonna just mail the keys back and sell their slots

04-03-2023 | 09:30 AM

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huge influx of yuppies

That makes it worse.

04-04-2023 | 04:24 PM

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That makes it worse.

Ah yes, people with decent jobs are the worst

04-05-2023 | 04:15 AM

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UA vs AA: DCA, LAX based

Currently in Virginia, 3-4 hour drive to DCA pending traffic. 33 years old. Down the road could consider relocating to SoCal. My understanding is AA has the seniority advantage system wide, but UA has larger footprint & flies all types at these hubs. Which airline would you pick?