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Earthboundmsfit 04-16-2023 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by RaginCajun (Post 3625175)
Expectation for Tuesday’s TownHall with SK? More canned c-suite answers of promised contract and ALPA blame? Probably.

NO ONE (except union leadership) should be tuning in to these propaganda shows. Imachine the message it would send if no one logged in to listen?!!

Honestly I don’t know why the union hasn’t sent out a comm to the pilot group strongly discouraging this???

ClappedOut145 04-16-2023 07:03 PM

The update last week fails my test when it comes to reserve improvements. Delta got some wonderful things in their CBA and we should be striving for them and more.

JackReacher 04-16-2023 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by RaginCajun (Post 3625175)
Expectation for Tuesday’s TownHall with SK? More canned c-suite answers of promised contract and ALPA blame? Probably.

Who actually goes/listens to these town hall events?!? Not gonna waste my time and listen to the same ole dog and pony show.

AxlF16 04-16-2023 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3625200)
The update last week fails my test when it comes to reserve improvements. Delta got some wonderful things in their CBA and we should be striving for them and more.

What makes you think we're not striving for those things?

Sunvox 04-17-2023 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3625200)
The update last week fails my test when it comes to reserve improvements. Delta got some wonderful things in their CBA and we should be striving for them and more.


I am not asking because I disagree. I am asking because I would very much be interested in knowing what rules Delta has that we are not asking for in our list.

So . . .

What are the "wonderful things" in the Delta CBA we should ask for?


Reserve

Agreed:
  • No involuntary assignment before 10 a.m. on Day 1 of a reserve block
  • Elimination of flexible day off (FDOs) for Global categories
  • Option to split holy days off (HDOs) into two shorter periods in Global categories
  • Voluntary Long Call Reserve lines where short call (SC) and field standby (FSB) is only through aggressive pick-up (APU)
  • Reserves maintain original scheduled release time when deviating
  • Increased restrictions on assigning Visiting Reserves
  • All unused Short Call assignments receive 1 hour of additional minimum pay guarantee (MPG)
  • Trip trades between reserves
  • Reserve day-for-day trades
  • Add Pay for reserve rolled days off
  • Add Pay for late build Short Calls
  • Improved release times if unused on last day of reserve
  • Add Pay for voluntary assignments that start prior to 10 a.m. on Day 1

Open Items:
  • Increase in number of reserve days off
  • Increase in the daily value of reserve guarantee
  • Pilot option to add an additional reserve day in high LPA months
  • Short Call caps
  • Elimination of FDOs for Basic categories
  • Elimination of involuntary FSB
  • Improved voluntary reserve options
  • Improved Long Call and Short Call callout times
  • Increased pay for voluntary FSB
  • Remove crew desk discretion from reserve assignment order
  • Incentives to avoid involuntarily rolling of reserve days off


FlewNavy 04-17-2023 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by RaginCajun (Post 3625175)
Expectation for Tuesday’s TownHall with SK? More canned c-suite answers of promised contract and ALPA blame? Probably.

SK.will say the offer on the table is industry leading and ALPA isn’t willing to negotiate so mediation is the likely outcome followed by comments on recession outlook and more guppys.

Sniper66 04-17-2023 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 3625264)
SK.will say the offer on the table is industry leading and ALPA isn’t willing to negotiate so mediation is the likely outcome followed by comments on recession outlook and more guppys.



there will be no mediation
mark this down

BobbyLeeSwagger 04-17-2023 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3625306)
there will be no mediation
mark this down

Agreed, the company can't afford to wait any more than we can imo. But it sure does sound scary 🥴😒

ThumbsUp 04-17-2023 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 3625262)
I am not asking because I disagree. I am asking because I would very much be interested in knowing what rules Delta has that we are not asking for in our list.

So . . .

What are the "wonderful things" in the Delta CBA we should ask for?

I think they are basically all listed in the open items already

hummingbear 04-17-2023 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3625379)
I think they are basically all listed in the open items already

I think Delta also has some sort of clause for being released from your remaining RSV days once you reach guarantee. Other carriers have similar restrictions. Back in my regional days, once you went over guarantee, you were retroactively paid min daily credit for every unused RSV day. (And we even thought that was a rip-off because we shouldn’t have had to break guarantee to get paid that way!) Sometimes breaking guarantee by one minute could mean an extra 20+ hours of pay. Breaking guarantee at UAL is comparatively useless. Straight pay for hours flown & no extra days off.


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