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Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3625415)
I think Delta also has some sort of clause for being released from your remaining RSV days once you reach guarantee. Other carriers have similar restrictions. Back in my regional days, once you went over guarantee, you were retroactively paid min daily credit for every unused RSV day. (And we even thought that was a rip-off because we shouldn’t have had to break guarantee to get paid that way!) Sometimes breaking guarantee by one minute could mean an extra 20+ hours of pay. Breaking guarantee at UAL is comparatively useless. Straight pay for hours flown & no extra days off.
If you have 1 minute left, you are still useable as they can schedule you above ALV+15. It’s a catch most pilots miss over here. |
Originally Posted by Jaww
(Post 3625462)
Delta is average line value plus 15. Once you’re over that you are released. Though you often have to call and tell them you are “full.” It’s not automatic.
If you have 1 minute left, you are still useable as they can schedule you above ALV+15. It’s a catch most pilots miss over here. |
Originally Posted by Jaxs170
(Post 3625490)
Not quite: Once you hit the ALV you are full and have no more obligations. If you are one minute short of this, they can schedule you to ALV+15
Further, this can be adjusted down on a pro-rated basis for things like Vacation, a personal drop, ALPA work, CQ, etc. If you complete a trip which exceeds YOUR Reserve guarantee, you "have no further obligation to the company". You do not need to be marked "Full". You can simply ignore any phone calls until the next bid period if you desire. One example is a week of vacation is now worth 28:00, so if the Reserve Guarantee was originally 72, YOUR reserve guarantee would be 44 hours, which is why a lot of pilots bid reserve in a vacation month. However, as accurately stated, if you finish a trip with even 0:01 of YOUR reserve guarantee left, they can give you a trip up to ALV+15, which can easily be a 3-day trip, or even more. That vacation month would have 43 hours until that "cap"... However, said trip may not extend into any days off. (We call them "X-days"). So if you only had 2 days of "long call" remaining, they could only give you a 2-day trip. One big loophole closed in our new contract is that Trips which cross from a Reserve month to a Line month are now always a proffer. They used to be able to give you a trip which took you into days off in a line month with no consequence. Total BS, but no more. |
Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3625548)
One big loophole closed in our new contract is that Trips which cross from a Reserve month to a Line month are now always a proffer. They used to be able to give you a trip which took you into days off in a line month with no consequence. Total BS, but no more.
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Originally Posted by Jaww
(Post 3625462)
Delta is average line value plus 15. Once you’re over that you are released. Though you often have to call and tell them you are “full.” It’s not automatic.
If you have 1 minute left, you are still useable as they can schedule you above ALV+15. It’s a catch most pilots miss over here. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3625721)
You need to read the reserve section of the contract. Your way off. About 15 hours off give or take.
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A lot of "What it's not" regarding the full on reserve at Delta. Is the following the real Delta "No shizer" on what should now be the industry standard/UAL ask?
Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3625548)
Not quite. At Delta, Reserve Guarantee is ALV-2, bounded by the range 72-80.
Further, this can be adjusted down on a pro-rated basis for things like Vacation, a personal drop, ALPA work, CQ, etc. If you complete a trip which exceeds YOUR Reserve guarantee, you "have no further obligation to the company". You do not need to be marked "Full". You can simply ignore any phone calls until the next bid period if you desire. One example is a week of vacation is now worth 28:00, so if the Reserve Guarantee was originally 72, YOUR reserve guarantee would be 44 hours, which is why a lot of pilots bid reserve in a vacation month. However, as accurately stated, if you finish a trip with even 0:01 of YOUR reserve guarantee left, they can give you a trip up to ALV+15, which can easily be a 3-day trip, or even more. That vacation month would have 43 hours until that "cap"... However, said trip may not extend into any days off. (We call them "X-days"). So if you only had 2 days of "long call" remaining, they could only give you a 2-day trip. One big loophole closed in our new contract is that Trips which cross from a Reserve month to a Line month are now always a proffer. They used to be able to give you a trip which took you into days off in a line month with no consequence. Total BS, but no more. |
Originally Posted by andydwyer
(Post 3623018)
Anyone who goes to that, please post what was said.
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
(Post 3625761)
Anyone who goes to that needs to pay attention: We, as line pilots should have ZERO attendance at these scripted propaganda dog and pony shows.
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Is there any precedent where advising against attending these types of meetings has been considered disruption of the status quo? I’m honestly wondering why the union isn’t making that admonition. It really kills our “Contract First United Next” ethos when we fill a room full of people wanting to hear about SK’s plans for the airline during stalled negotiations. If talk is cheap & our time is valuable, why are freely giving it up to listen to a corporate sales job?
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