View Poll Results: When will we see retro?

September

1.29%

October

40.00%

November

31.61%

December

27.10%

Voters: 155. You may not vote on this poll

Retro, Timeline, Final Language

Reply Subscribe

Page 4 of 7

Thread Tools

Search this Thread

08-06-2023 | 05:23 PM

#31

oldmako

Gets Weekends Off

Joined: May 2009

Posts: 3,076

Likes: 3

From: The GF of FUPM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gooselives

riding the delta wave.

only reason we are getting a contract so late is the recalls and bigot being pushed by aw thank you?

I'm astonished that you keep toeing the Todd line when his TUMI turd was such an EPIC failure. WAY TO GO UA PILOTS!! And, this is your last contract? Have you learned NOTHING over the last 30-40 years? No need to answer. You have repeatedly answered that question time and time again. But please, keep digging. It's entertaining as hell!

How long was Insler in office? He brought forth a steaming pile of excrement and knelt at the altar of Kirby for YEARS. And how long was his replacement in business before he came up with a significantly better TA?

Wow.

08-06-2023 | 05:35 PM

#32

oldmako

Gets Weekends Off

Joined: May 2009

Posts: 3,076

Likes: 3

From: The GF of FUPM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClappedOut145

How is it that AW is the DCA FO rep? What exactly does a widebody, lineholding captain have in common with a First Officer? Seems like it would be prudent to actually have a first officer represent them.

Maybe by being an FO for 30 years? AW has larger testes and more blue-collar bona fides than the ENTIRE TI group combined. There are a TON of 25-30 year FOs at UAL. And for very good reasons. An arbitrary means of dismissing all that experience from a leadership position is a very bad idea.

08-06-2023 | 07:36 PM

#33

CQKSNT

Gets Weekends Off

Joined: Sep 2020

Posts: 124

Likes: 0

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin18

uhh, you have another election…it’s actually that simple and happens all of the time in regionals when reps leave in the middle of a term….

Why do FOs and CAs need separate reps? This sounds like another item to add to the long list of antiquated and irrational ALPA practices along with driving U-Hauls around the airport as billboards. We need some fresh blood to
bring us into this century.

08-07-2023 | 04:38 AM

#34

KnightNight

Line Holder

Joined: Aug 2021

Posts: 934

Likes: 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by CQKSNT

Because both groups have different needs and wants?

08-07-2023 | 06:13 AM

#35

kevin18

Line Holder

Joined: Jun 2018

Posts: 500

Likes: 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon

Sure, what I mean is there’s value in continuity of representation. It takes time to get reps up to speed and I don’t think we need to chuck them halfway through their term just because they upgrade. It’s one thing if they leave the company, it’s another if they upgrade halfway through their term. It’s no more of a conflict than a super senior lineholder FO holding that spot “not being able to understand” a super junior reserve. Or a WB FO representing NB FO’s.

Just seems like another cheap shot from the people that brought us Tumi. I just don’t care if someone upgrades halfway through their term. They don’t suddenly forget what it was like to be an FO the day they show up to charm school. I’d rather they finish out their term and then be ineligible for reelection.

Not day one, but they definitely do seem to forget at one point. Just wonder what point that is. I agree it doesn’t make much sense. Was just saying it isn’t difficult to do.

08-07-2023 | 06:23 AM

#36

PK387

Line Holder

Joined: Apr 2016

Posts: 378

Likes: 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnightNight

Because both groups have different needs and wants?

Sure, but so do commuters vs. locals, LHers vs. reserves, WB vs. NB, etc. Some of those distinctions (in terms of needs and wants) seem as large to me as CA vs. FO.

08-07-2023 | 06:28 AM

#37

KnightNight

Line Holder

Joined: Aug 2021

Posts: 934

Likes: 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by PK387

Sure, but so do commuters vs. locals, LHers vs. reserves, WB vs. NB, etc. Some of those distinctions (in terms of needs and wants) seem as large to me as CA vs. FO.

But those can all be sub categories to being a CA or being an FO. Makes sense to me 🤷🏻‍♂️

08-07-2023 | 06:34 AM

#38

Voski

Gets Weekends Off

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 610

Likes: 0

Has anyone heard from their reps if retro checks could be elected to be contributed to one’s 401(k) — either full amount, $, or %?

08-07-2023 | 09:32 AM

#39

JTwift

Line Holder

Joined: Feb 2017

Posts: 1,631

Likes: 80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voski

Has anyone heard from their reps if retro checks could be elected to be contributed to one’s 401(k) — either full amount, $, or %?

that language is being finalized. You need to wait until the lawyers get done lawyering.

08-07-2023 | 11:11 AM

#40

744ButtonPusher

Line Holder

Joined: Apr 2018

Posts: 399

Likes: 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTwift

that language is being finalized. You need to wait until the lawyers get done lawyering.

Keep in mind that IF the retro is allowed to be contributed to your 401k it would still be subject to the individual contribution and/or 415c limits so if you are someone who already maxes out your stuff , you won’t be Able to contribute any of your retro.

note: the limits considered would be for the respective tax year, so 2020 retro for 2020 limits ect not the current year.