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Old 09-07-2023 | 06:51 AM
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If we had signed off on Tumi we'd have been making those rates for Two years and would be negotiating now...likely close to this agreement. Opportunity cost is a thing.
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Old 09-07-2023 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Ca73
Most of the replies to this thread sound very much like what people say when they are hearing what they don’t want to hear, regardless of it’s validity. How about some actual thoughts on why Section 8 is not an erosion of what this profession is founded on?
How about cause there are multiple threads right now discussing a range from not a huge deal to United pilots are almost scabs if AIP gets voted this in? Go to there if you want to discuss it. Hey why not have a good thread on SW’s medical freedom as well!?!
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Old 09-07-2023 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DownSideUp
Respectfully, that’s 20 minutes of my life I won’t get back.

In a nutshell, Mario is upset because he didn’t get his pony.
what he said
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Old 09-07-2023 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Ca73
I urge everyone to read and consider Council 33 FO Rep Mario Martins’ position on this TA before voting. The link is below. You can also log into www.alpa.org, go to the Council 33 link and click on “ Vice Chair TA Perspective : A Product of Expediency”.

https://www.alpa.org/ual/-/media/UAL...2023-09-06.pdf


Mario’s vote today will make no difference

MEC will vote in couple of hours today and for sure they will send this to MRAT.

Pilots will decide and in my opinion this will Pass and it’s an easy pass
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Old 09-07-2023 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
If we had signed off on Tumi we'd have been making those rates for Two years and would be negotiating now...likely close to this agreement. Opportunity cost is a thing.
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The 14% bonus pay covers pretty much all positives that Tumi would have given the pilot group without the concessions.
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Old 09-07-2023 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
Mario’s vote today will make no difference

MEC will vote in couple of hours today and for sure they will send this to MRAT.

Pilots will decide and in my opinion this will Pass and it’s an easy pass
mario + 3 others will vote no…
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Old 09-07-2023 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ca73
Most of the replies to this thread sound very much like what people say when they are hearing what they don’t want to hear, regardless of it’s validity. How about some actual thoughts on why Section 8 is not an erosion of what this profession is founded on?
nope, I read it and just disagree with it., you sound like you’re trying to sell someone else’s opinions (unless in fact they are actually YOUR opinions and are passing them off as soemone else’s )

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Old 09-07-2023 | 10:01 AM
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ask Mario if he brought up his concerns at the MEC meeting now in progress.
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Old 09-07-2023 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp
How about cause there are multiple threads right now discussing a range from not a huge deal to United pilots are almost scabs if AIP gets voted this in? Go to there if you want to discuss it. Hey why not have a good thread on SW’s medical freedom as well!?!
man….you’re not kidding. Her no-fly list must be VAST.
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Old 09-07-2023 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever
ask Mario if he brought up his concerns at the MEC meeting now in progress.
That was my issue with it……the timing was bad.
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