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Old 03-18-2024 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by PK387
What? I didn’t fly tankers so maybe I’m off base here, but haven’t we been doing this for decades?
In complete darkness? No.

Maybe tankers were updated to NVIS lighting since I quit flying? I had many sorties (yes, at night) where the NVG rejoin, observation position, and pre-contact were just fine. They had to bring the lights up since we couldn't move into contact on goggles.
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Old 03-18-2024 | 08:29 AM
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76 max 10s coverted to 8/9s
all to be delivered at 20024
along with 30 321s and 7 787s

stay tune for the 36 leased 321s announcement
and the 200 new airbus mix order announcement
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Old 03-18-2024 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
76 max 10s coverted to 8/9s
all to be delivered at 20024
Now that's a schedule even Boeing might be able to make...
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Old 03-18-2024 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Now that's a schedule even Boeing might be able to make...
2024
sorry

haha
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Old 03-18-2024 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AbjectFutility
In complete darkness? No.

Maybe tankers were updated to NVIS lighting since I quit flying? I had many sorties (yes, at night) where the NVG rejoin, observation position, and pre-contact were just fine. They had to bring the lights up since we couldn't move into contact on goggles.
Gin Bear procedure was commonly blacked out, no comm. Did it plenty.
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Old 03-18-2024 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
Typical Grumble, making up alternative facts to try and support a narrative.

The 787 program is profitable for Boeing. That is a fact.
The program was $32B in the red at first delivery, and those costs have only increased.

The facts are out there if you actually read them.

Originally Posted by C11DCA
Sure it is,

if you forget about deferred production costs.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN18Z123
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4th quarter 2023 still had over $12 billion in deferred 787 production costs.
Kind of hard to chip away at that when you can’t even deliver completed airplanes to customers on time!
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Old 03-18-2024 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PK387
What? I didn’t fly tankers so maybe I’m off base here, but haven’t we been doing this for decades?
No, we use lights.
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Old 03-18-2024 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
No, we use lights.
Gin Bear is what I was referring to... but I didn't do spooky dark-patch stuff, so ignore me if I'm wrong.
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Old 03-18-2024 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PK387
Gin Bear is what I was referring to... but I didn't do spooky dark-patch stuff, so ignore me if I'm wrong.
That’s only a small group of tankers that do/did that, so not surprising that not everyone would know.
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Old 03-18-2024 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
That’s only a small group of tankers that do/did that, so not surprising that not everyone would know.
That's fair. Not trying to be a pedant, just wanted to highlight that sometimes low-tech solutions (like a pair of eyeballs looking out a window) can get the job done just as well.

Apologies for the thread drift. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming...
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