WB FO lifestyle, in base.
05-06-2024 | 11:17 AM
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SFO. And to the other pilots' points, apples do not equal apples. If you're a senior pilot who bids well, or maybe buddy bids with LCAs, or maybe bids TLVs...or whatever combo it takes for the company to buy your trips and then pick something up off the board...well, then 98 hours is well within reach.
05-06-2024 | 12:48 PM
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I don’t disagree with your general premise (that the average NBCA makes more than the average WBFO), but your numbers are a bit off.
NBCA only makes $350 around year 8-9, while a WBFO makes $260 (25550/98) in year 3.
Anecdotally, I think WBFO is a lot less stressful.
That’s hard to put a dollar sign on.
The original question was about QOL, not money. Aside from time zone havoc, WBFO is the best QOL I can imagine from pretty much any job.
NBCA only makes $350 around year 8-9, while a WBFO makes $260 (25550/98) in year 3.
Anecdotally, I think WBFO is a lot less stressful.
That’s hard to put a dollar sign on.
The original question was about QOL, not money. Aside from time zone havoc, WBFO is the best QOL I can imagine from pretty much any job.
. It’s been a great qol for me and it would take a lot for me to upgrade
05-06-2024 | 02:33 PM
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The maintenance, turn, swap, DH, wx thing is key to me. If you're ok with the sleep/timezone thing, it's incredible. So much better than the NB grind. Got bumped below the gline the last couple months, but so far reserve has also been amazing. Money is great and all, but I need more than that to go back to NB.
05-06-2024 | 07:39 PM
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lets see here....3 hkg 3 day trips a month or battling ATC and the crew desk for 12-14 days...getting reassigned, extended, etc. i dont care if the pay was double....i wouldnt be doing it. (especially since i sleep half the flight, so i am effectively getting paid $600/hr for my time in the cockpit. (and yeah...its still a cockpit)
05-07-2024 | 05:00 AM
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lets see here....3 hkg 3 day trips a month or battling ATC and the crew desk for 12-14 days...getting reassigned, extended, etc. i dont care if the pay was double....i wouldnt be doing it. (especially since i sleep half the flight, so i am effectively getting paid $600/hr for my time in the cockpit. (and yeah...its still a cockpit)
05-07-2024 | 09:38 AM
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I have a CJO, and I’m curious about how getting time off works in the first few years with low seniority? What options do you have if I have a family wedding in the middle of the summer for a week? Assuming it’s nearly impossible to get a week of vacation in the middle of the summer. Thanks
05-07-2024 | 10:20 AM
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I have a CJO, and I’m curious about how getting time off works in the first few years with low seniority? What options do you have if I have a family wedding in the middle of the summer for a week? Assuming it’s nearly impossible to get a week of vacation in the middle of the summer. Thanks
https://d2r1lrrqctgamh.cloudfront.ne...2023-09-29.pdf
Commuter/living in base, particular base and equipment, etc., would also play in the QOL equation of course. Looks like if you are willing to fly unwanted stuff heavily enough before and after when you want your time off it might be doable but only time will tell.
05-07-2024 | 10:35 AM
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lets see here....3 hkg 3 day trips a month or battling ATC and the crew desk for 12-14 days...getting reassigned, extended, etc. i dont care if the pay was double....i wouldnt be doing it. (especially since i sleep half the flight, so i am effectively getting paid $600/hr for my time in the cockpit. (and yeah...its still a cockpit)
05-07-2024 | 10:40 AM
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Schedule for July comes out mid June. You will have a better idea then. There are some small workarounds that make it more likely, but no guarantees.
The chief pilots are good about getting people off for births, deaths, etc but a week in the middle of high season for a wedding - let alone not your own - no real way to promise that can happen.
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