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Old 10-15-2024 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ripinpeace
How did we not beat Delta w/ the crowdstrike fiasco?
https://apnews.com/article/delta-air...5851ec61eff6e4

Our net profit was $1.3B and Delta's was $971M.

United has also generated more net cash flow than Delta YTD and reduced more Long Term Debt YTD than Delta.

We've passed Delta in total # of planes, total available seat miles, and now quarterly profit.
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Old 10-15-2024 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
https://apnews.com/article/delta-air...5851ec61eff6e4

Our net profit was $1.3B and Delta's was $971M.

United has also generated more net cash flow than Delta YTD and reduced more Long Term Debt YTD than Delta.

We've passed Delta in total # of planes, total available seat miles, and now quarterly profit.
Nice. United has been averaging over $26 million in operating cash flow a day this year. Absolutely jarring numbers they are putting up right now.
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Old 10-16-2024 | 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyPanAm
Nice. United has been averaging over $26 million in operating cash flow a day this year. Absolutely jarring numbers they are putting up right now.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/15/unit...-earnings.html

FAs are justifiably ****ed at the stock buyback.
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Old 10-16-2024 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by khergan
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/15/united-airlines-ual-3q-2024-earnings.html

FAs are justifiably ****ed at the stock buyback.
Rightfully so, I am disappointed to see them announce this buyback program and not have delivered the contract that our FAs deserves....
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Old 10-16-2024 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
Rightfully so, I am disappointed to see them announce this buyback program and not have delivered the contract that our FAs deserves....
Why should that matter to you? Does the stock buyback affect pilots?
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Old 10-16-2024 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by PipeMan
Why should that matter to you? Does the stock buyback affect pilots?
Unlike some pilots, I support my FAs. I value their contributions and their work towards our companies bottomline. Along with gate agents and CSRs who are customer facing, it's important to ensure that morale doesn't drop too low. They have a difficult job and they aren't well compensated for it. The need some QOL some improvement to their work rules based on how the company treats them as well... The things I've seen that they deal with sometimes is damn near criminal...

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Old 10-16-2024 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
Unlike some pilots, I support my FAs. I value their contributions and their work towards our companies bottomline. Along with gate agents and CSRs who are customer facing, it's important to ensure that morale doesn't drop too low. They have a difficult job and they aren't well compensated for it. The need some QOL some improvement to their work rules based on how the company treats them as well... The things I've seen what they deal with sometimes is damn near criminal...
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Old 10-16-2024 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
Unlike some pilots, I support my FAs. I value their contributions and their work towards our companies bottomline. Along with gate agents and CSRs who are customer facing, it's important to ensure that morale doesn't drop too low. They have a difficult job and they aren't well compensated for it. The need some QOL some improvement to their work rules based on how the company treats them as well... The things I've seen that they deal with sometimes is damn near criminal...
I agree. Having friendly and helpful gate agents and FA’s make a big first impression on customers before they even sit on the plane.
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Old 10-16-2024 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
Unlike some pilots, I support my FAs. I value their contributions and their work towards our companies bottomline. Along with gate agents and CSRs who are customer facing, it's important to ensure that morale doesn't drop too low. They have a difficult job and they aren't well compensated for it. The need some QOL some improvement to their work rules based on how the company treats them as well... The things I've seen that they deal with sometimes is damn near criminal...
Hopefully most pilots understand this. All the podium PAs & thank you notes in the world are a drop in the bucket compared to the level of passenger interaction our FAs have on a slow day. Their role in the passenger experience cannot be overstated & there is no amount of singing & dancing we could do to overcome the damage of a disgruntled FA labor group. The company needs to finish this yesterday or we’re all going to feel the backlash.
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Old 10-16-2024 | 08:06 AM
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Not sure where you are getting your info on the financials but its mostly incorrect.

You're conflating different numbers with "net profit" for one.

GAAP Net income: UA 965m DL 1.27B

Adjusted Net Income: UA 1.11B DL 971M (includes roughly 380 in net income hit due to crowdstrike meltdown)

Also, UA has not generated more net cash flow YTD: UA 3.593B DL 4.278B.

UA has paid more debt than DL, but it has more debt and that doesnt affect cash flow numbers.

UA has made significant ground, but still below DL in revenue, net income, free cash flow, and both operating and net profit margin. These two airlines are head and shoulders above the rest of the industry no doubt. I'm not attacking you, there's just so much finacially illiteracy around these reports I wanted to come in and try and explain a bit more.

All of this can be found directly from the quartely 10Qs.

https://ir.united.com/static-files/e8f60718-632e-4794-a60d-69cb2264af37

https://s2.q4cdn.com/181345880/files/doc_financials/2024/q3/56bfd3a9-e3b8-468a-8351-51ae59ef7bbf.pdf
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