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Old 10-16-2024 | 02:09 PM
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Unlike some pilots, I support my FAs. I value their contributions and their work towards our companies bottomline. Along with gate agents and CSRs who are customer facing, it's important to ensure that morale doesn't drop too low. They have a difficult job and they aren't well compensated for it. The need some QOL some improvement to their work rules based on how the company treats them as well... The things I've seen that they deal with sometimes is damn near criminal...
This. All of this. I want our F/A's to get the contract that they deserve. If you can make this workgroup happy, then it will boost their morale and overall performance.
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Old 10-16-2024 | 02:54 PM
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Wow UAL stock went crazy today!
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Old 10-16-2024 | 04:02 PM
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Wow UAL stock went crazy today!
From the earnings call this morning:

"On the other end of the spectrum, basic economy remains an important product with volumes up 21% year-over-year."

"The gauge increase from the narrowbodies, that's frankly what's driving our ability to provide basic economy, which is creating a competitive dynamic that is just fundamentally reshaping the industry."

They also said to expect another $1B in profit in Q4 which would be unhead of. They said Basic Economy is a massive revenue stream and they expect it to grow as we keep upgauging planes.

They also said we'd get 20 more planes delivered in Q4 including, finally, 787s.
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Old 10-16-2024 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Wow UAL stock went crazy today!
It was a Soarin' like Tabitha Soren
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Old 10-16-2024 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
Unlike some pilots, I support my FAs. I value their contributions and their work towards our companies bottomline. Along with gate agents and CSRs who are customer facing, it's important to ensure that morale doesn't drop too low. They have a difficult job and they aren't well compensated for it. The need some QOL some improvement to their work rules based on how the company treats them as well... The things I've seen that they deal with sometimes is damn near criminal...
The FAs are their own worst enemy. We had an hour bus ride to the airport the other day, dozen or so FAs. We (pilots) asked them what it is they’re looking for in a contract and it was like rolling a grenade into a room. They went at EACH OTHER for the rest of the bus ride. For a solid hour they all told each other why what they wanted was the most important and why what everyone else wants is dumb. They are so fractured, I have no idea how you’re supposed to negotiate for a group who can’t even agree amongst themselves.

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This. All of this. I want our F/A's to get the contract that they deserve. If you can make this workgroup happy, then it will boost their morale and overall performance.
Based on what I’ve seen, and talking to FAs, 49% of them won’t be happy. It looks like a huge lift for even the AFA to get them to 51%.
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Old 10-16-2024 | 09:09 PM
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The FAs are their own worst enemy. We had an hour bus ride to the airport the other day, dozen or so FAs. We (pilots) asked them what it is they’re looking for in a contract and it was like rolling a grenade into a room. They went at EACH OTHER for the rest of the bus ride. For a solid hour they all told each other why what they wanted was the most important and why what everyone else wants is dumb. They are so fractured, I have no idea how you’re supposed to negotiate for a group who can’t even agree amongst themselves.
You should have seen them after C2000...
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Old 10-17-2024 | 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
The FAs are their own worst enemy. We had an hour bus ride to the airport the other day, dozen or so FAs. We (pilots) asked them what it is they’re looking for in a contract and it was like rolling a grenade into a room. They went at EACH OTHER for the rest of the bus ride. For a solid hour they all told each other why what they wanted was the most important and why what everyone else wants is dumb. They are so fractured, I have no idea how you’re supposed to negotiate for a group who can’t even agree amongst themselves.
It's also amazing how many of them have no clue regarding how the process works. I had a couple recently tell me how they're going to "do chaos" if they don't get a contract soon. They didn't want to hear that any type of organized job action required that they be released into self help. After explaining how the process works they were mad at me and not the process.
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Old 10-17-2024 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
The FAs are their own worst enemy. We had an hour bus ride to the airport the other day, dozen or so FAs. We (pilots) asked them what it is they’re looking for in a contract and it was like rolling a grenade into a room. They went at EACH OTHER for the rest of the bus ride. For a solid hour they all told each other why what they wanted was the most important and why what everyone else wants is dumb. They are so fractured, I have no idea how you’re supposed to negotiate for a group who can’t even agree amongst themselves.



Based on what I’ve seen, and talking to FAs, 49% of them won’t be happy. It looks like a huge lift for even the AFA to get them to 51%.
We weren’t better either….
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Old 10-17-2024 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
You should have seen them after C2000...
The saddest comment I heard was “we’re being told you guys took all the money and there’s nothing left for us”.

After that I just empathize and tell them I hope they deservedly get something soon.
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Old 10-17-2024 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
After explaining how the process works they were mad at me and not the process.
Classic🤦‍♂️

Originally Posted by Spesiellsporing
The saddest comment I heard was “we’re being told you guys took all the money and there’s nothing left for us”.

After that I just empathize and tell them I hope they deservedly get something soon.
This and the above is why I try not to be in/around any discussions about it. It helps that I'm never at work🤘
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