UAL Q3 Earnings
10-18-2024 | 09:33 AM
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Not true. AA didn't have a TA until the summer of 2023. There was some negotiating in public going on between AA and APA, but no agreement until just before ours (UPA23). Then THEY pulled their TA down and renegotiated, knowing it was in trouble and far inferior to our TA.
They had TA 1.0 that APA negotiation team and management came into an agreement Fall 2022. It didn’t get past the APA BOD with a 15-5 vote.
10-18-2024 | 11:21 AM
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The AA development that caused big waves over here was not a TA. It was an opening offer by AA management to their pilot union & was essentially a cut & paste of our TUMI TA (plus a few dollars, I believe). Essentially, AA’s management saw what our union had “fought” to win for us & immediately tried to lock in the same terms for themselves. That juxtaposition made it hard to believe our union was truly functioning as a pilot advocate.
10-18-2024 | 01:41 PM
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The AA development that caused big waves over here was not a TA. It was an opening offer by AA management to their pilot union & was essentially a cut & paste of our TUMI TA (plus a few dollars, I believe). Essentially, AA’s management saw what our union had “fought” to win for us & immediately tried to lock in the same terms for themselves. That juxtaposition made it hard to believe our union was truly functioning as a pilot advocate.
10-18-2024 | 01:51 PM
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Add in several regionals to include Mesa, which were given ~100/hr pay increases. Vote was put on hold then Delta came through for everyone, Tod Insler was just a management lap dog. How’s it feel to be a toothless yorkie Tod? Man talk about detached from reality, only to continue to try and hang on to power.
10-19-2024 | 07:31 AM
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Revisionist history indeed. TI was not MEC chair at the time. MH was. I recall a couple of MEC comms prior to February 28, 2022 where TI said the company tried to close out the contract negotiations (November to January?) three times but he said the offer was not good enough. Everyone's obsession with blaming TI for something that was brought to us by MH and the then reps during his time as MEC Chair leaves me shaking my head constantly. Just like the legacy pilots still complaining about the merger, SLI, etc.
10-19-2024 | 08:34 AM
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Revisionist history indeed. TI was not MEC chair at the time. MH was. I recall a couple of MEC comms prior to February 28, 2022 where TI said the company tried to close out the contract negotiations (November to January?) three times but he said the offer was not good enough. Everyone's obsession with blaming TI for something that was brought to us by MH and the then reps during his time as MEC Chair leaves me shaking my head constantly. Just like the legacy pilots still complaining about the merger, SLI, etc.
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