Vacancy 26-05
12-05-2025 | 09:03 AM
#71
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Been on the 737 for over 18 years with 13.5 of those as an FO. How is being a 737 FO hard? That’s not being condescending or out of touch since I flew in that seat a long time. The only “hard” part of being the FO was adapting to the various captains and sometimes a captain’s multiple personalities within a day or even a flight. But, I would argue, that is true on every fleet.
Each seat has its own challenges and being a captain involves a lot more management and coordination of many more personnel and departments. I’d peg NBCA just a fraction “harder” than being an FO…and I find being a captain EASY.
Each seat has its own challenges and being a captain involves a lot more management and coordination of many more personnel and departments. I’d peg NBCA just a fraction “harder” than being an FO…and I find being a captain EASY.
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12-05-2025 | 10:08 AM
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Before the last bid we had a bunch of APC mids that were claiming there were "thousands" of pre-pandemic hire FOs that now that they could hold a line would be upgrading to CA and the post-pandemic hires had "missed the window" of upgrading to Captain and would have to wait 5 more year years to upgrade. Yet over half of the CA upgrades on the last bid were post-pandemic hires, and again on this bid there are many as well. But I never said "new hires" would get Captain. Just that they would likely keep going junior just as they are. Upgrading at 3 years at United is certainly "junior" from my perspective. Maybe not if you're a new hire, but to expect to get CA in year 1 has only happened for a very short period of time in my 30+ years here, although the same bid I got my CA upgrade in 1999 we had a pilot with 2 years and 8 months get guppy CA.
12-05-2025 | 11:14 AM
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Well ,poor wording on my part. it's not that it's "hard" as in it's difficult, but it's the busiest seat at the airline. Maybe that's a better way of putting it. My point was that it's a "harder, busier, more tasks etc" whatever you want to call it job than being a CA. Yes being a CA holds more responsibility but the day to day job of an F/O is more work. I spent a total of 13 years combined in the right seat of (sf-340,erj-145,320,737) and about 10 years as a CA on the 320. Being an F/O is more work period, especially at UAL. (My opinion only and you know what they say about those, lol )
12-05-2025 | 12:16 PM
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Before the last bid we had a bunch of APC mids that were claiming there were "thousands" of pre-pandemic hire FOs that now that they could hold a line would be upgrading to CA and the post-pandemic hires had "missed the window" of upgrading to Captain and would have to wait 5 more year years to upgrade. Yet over half of the CA upgrades on the last bid were post-pandemic hires, and again on this bid there are many as well. But I never said "new hires" would get Captain. Just that they would likely keep going junior just as they are. Upgrading at 3 years at United is certainly "junior" from my perspective. Maybe not if you're a new hire, but to expect to get CA in year 1 has only happened for a very short period of time in my 30+ years here, although the same bid I got my CA upgrade in 1999 we had a pilot with 2 years and 8 months get guppy CA.
….and “do you find others reactions to such seniority holding left seat bus (either as they predicted or with shock) suprising?”
12-05-2025 | 12:22 PM
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Before the last bid we had a bunch of APC mids that were claiming there were "thousands" of pre-pandemic hire FOs that now that they could hold a line would be upgrading to CA and the post-pandemic hires had "missed the window" of upgrading to Captain and would have to wait 5 more year years to upgrade. Yet over half of the CA upgrades on the last bid were post-pandemic hires, and again on this bid there are many as well. But I never said "new hires" would get Captain. Just that they would likely keep going junior just as they are. Upgrading at 3 years at United is certainly "junior" from my perspective. Maybe not if you're a new hire, but to expect to get CA in year 1 has only happened for a very short period of time in my 30+ years here, although the same bid I got my CA upgrade in 1999 we had a pilot with 2 years and 8 months get guppy CA.
12-05-2025 | 12:25 PM
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“regional flying” comment grinds my gears. If this flying wasn’t at mainline many of us wouldn’t be here at mother U. We fought/advocated for years to bring the flying back in house and now we complain about it.
My next trip has “regional flying” (DSM, RIC, CMH) on it. I will take my 7 year NBCA rate, 17% PRAP and profit sharing compared the lost decade of slave wages
12-05-2025 | 01:32 PM
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“regional flying” comment grinds my gears. If this flying wasn’t at mainline many of us wouldn’t be here at mother U. We fought/advocated for years to bring the flying back in house and now we complain about it.
My next trip has “regional flying” (DSM, RIC, CMH) on it. I will take my 7 year NBCA rate, 17% PRAP and profit sharing compared the lost decade of slave wages
My next trip has “regional flying” (DSM, RIC, CMH) on it. I will take my 7 year NBCA rate, 17% PRAP and profit sharing compared the lost decade of slave wages
yes! Well said.
12-05-2025 | 02:16 PM
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“regional flying” comment grinds my gears. If this flying wasn’t at mainline many of us wouldn’t be here at mother U. We fought/advocated for years to bring the flying back in house and now we complain about it.
My next trip has “regional flying” (DSM, RIC, CMH) on it. I will take my 7 year NBCA rate, 17% PRAP and profit sharing compared the lost decade of slave wages
My next trip has “regional flying” (DSM, RIC, CMH) on it. I will take my 7 year NBCA rate, 17% PRAP and profit sharing compared the lost decade of slave wages
12-05-2025 | 05:54 PM
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“regional flying” comment grinds my gears. If this flying wasn’t at mainline many of us wouldn’t be here at mother U. We fought/advocated for years to bring the flying back in house and now we complain about it.
My next trip has “regional flying” (DSM, RIC, CMH) on it. I will take my 7 year NBCA rate, 17% PRAP and profit sharing compared the lost decade of slave wages
My next trip has “regional flying” (DSM, RIC, CMH) on it. I will take my 7 year NBCA rate, 17% PRAP and profit sharing compared the lost decade of slave wages
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