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Flyby1206 02-16-2026 07:25 AM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 4003875)
Seat position at the time of a merger is irrelevant. Seniority lists are stove piped placing each pilot in the highest paying seat position they can hold. The stove piped list is what the merged list will be produced from. This prevents leap frogging which is a basic tenant of merging lists.
Yes, but where would WB FOs be positioned on the stovepiped status/category list relative to NB CAs?

WB CA
NB CA
WB FO
NB FO?

KnightNight 02-16-2026 07:29 AM
Can anyone tell me who we are merging with?

What I don’t get is there are people at a carrier that believe merger is only way it’ll survive but then when seniority lists merge they want to be on top. But if they went out of business (I would never wish that on anyone) they’d get hired at the bottom….its very strange

JoePatroni 02-16-2026 07:40 AM
Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 4003912)
Yes, but where would WB FOs be positioned on the stovepiped status/category list relative to NB CAs?

WB CA
NB CA
WB FO
NB FO?
It generally goes by pay rate.

khergan 02-16-2026 07:43 AM
Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 4003918)
It generally goes by pay rate.

what about NB FOs that are senior to WB FOs?

Swakid8 02-16-2026 07:56 AM
Originally Posted by khergan (Post 4003920)
what about NB FOs that are senior to WB FOs?
They will need to bid to WB FO before the the fence expires….

threeighteen 02-16-2026 08:07 AM
Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 4003925)
They will need to bid to WB FO before the the fence expires….
The key to any successful merger SLI would be to coordinate within your pilot group to let the plug at your company bid and get awarded widebody CA. Then you can walk in to arbitration with some big asks based on “career expectations”

KnightNight 02-16-2026 08:08 AM
Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 4003931)
The key to any successful merger SLI would be to coordinate within your pilot group to let the plug at your company bid and get awarded widebody CA. Then you can walk in to arbitration with some big asks based on “career expectations”

🙃
I will volunteer as tribute!

JoePatroni 02-16-2026 09:00 AM
Originally Posted by khergan (Post 4003920)
what about NB FOs that are senior to WB FOs?
It doesn’t matter what seat you’re sitting in, it’s more about what you can hold if everyone bid the highest paying seat they can hold.

khergan 02-16-2026 09:59 AM
Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 4003943)
It doesn’t matter what seat you’re sitting in, it’s more about what you can hold if everyone bid the highest paying seat they can hold.
exactly - because there are a batch of NB CA that are super junior, and WB FO that are junior-ish compared to NB FOs that are waiting for a decent % before they bid over.

System seniority > your seat in a merger is what I'm hearing, right?

JoePatroni 02-16-2026 10:06 AM
Originally Posted by khergan (Post 4003961)
exactly - because there are a batch of NB CA that are super junior, and WB FO that are junior-ish compared to NB FOs that are waiting for a decent % before they bid over.

System seniority > your seat in a merger is what I'm hearing, right?
The seat you’re currently sitting in means nothing.


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