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Old 03-13-2026 | 09:28 AM
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While we have been having the discussion, 83rd and 84th have now arrived!!!!
85th had its' first test flight yesterday. The next 30 (including number 85) all show as High J configuration
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Old 03-13-2026 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GoCats67
Here is the info that I got during COVID when we were in full cargo mania.
Thanks to you and PanAm, every little bit fills in blanks for me. Maybe a listing of Max ZFW vs. MTOW and fuel capacities would fill in another. My understanding is the 777X will be less cargo capable than a 300ER because it has the same MTOW but a higher ZFW than the 300ER, but I have yet to see a definitive answer.
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Old 03-15-2026 | 08:15 AM
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Kirby mentions interest in the higher gross weight version the 777-9 that Boeing is apparently working on. Other interesting news: international bookings surging as flyers avoid Middle East connections; and with $17 billion cash, United could survive $250 a barrel oil until the end of 2026. Link
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Old 03-15-2026 | 08:36 AM
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Other interesting news: international bookings surging as flyers avoid Middle East connections; and with $17 billion cash, United could survive $250 a barrel oil until the end of 2026.
$250 a barrel oil would shut down most airlines by mid summer and the govt wouldn't let that happen.
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Old 03-15-2026 | 09:04 AM
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$250 a barrel oil would shut down most airlines by mid summer and the govt wouldn't let that happen.
Yes, more pointing out the fact that United is well equipped to deal with the current surge in oil prices.
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Old 03-15-2026 | 09:15 AM
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Yes, more pointing out the fact that United is well equipped to deal with the current surge in oil prices.
surging oil prices work for and against you. As fuel prices rise LCC’s see a higher percentage increase in total CASM verses legacy airlines. That tends to knock down the operating LCC’s but far more importantly constrains capital from flowing to start up LCC’s. Don’t underestimate that value.
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Old 03-15-2026 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
surging oil prices work for and against you. As fuel prices rise LCC’s see a higher percentage increase in total CASM verses legacy airlines. That tends to knock down the operating LCC’s but far more importantly constrains capital from flowing to start up LCC’s. Don’t underestimate that value.
I don’t see a value in fellow pilots losing jobs and being put out on the street. Ask yourself how much you would truly benefit if an LCC goes under. It’s likely not a lot but it means a lot more to those there right now.
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Old 03-15-2026 | 05:57 PM
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I don’t see a value in fellow pilots losing jobs and being put out on the street. Ask yourself how much you would truly benefit if an LCC goes under. It’s likely not a lot but it means a lot more to those there right now.
Some of these guys lack virtually any empathy. You need to remember that.
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Old 03-15-2026 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyPanAm
Kirby mentions interest in the higher gross weight version the 777-9 that Boeing is apparently working on. Other interesting news: international bookings surging as flyers avoid Middle East connections; and with $17 billion cash, United could survive $250 a barrel oil until the end of 2026. Link
Source?
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Old 03-15-2026 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyPanAm
Kirby mentions interest in the higher gross weight version the 777-9 that Boeing is apparently working on. Other interesting news: international bookings surging as flyers avoid Middle East connections; and with $17 billion cash, United could survive $250 a barrel oil until the end of 2026. Link
Boeing needs to concentrate on getting the basic 777-9 certified before anything else gets done.
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