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#241
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Ugleeual,
Nobody is talking about” smoking the brakes” 40+ years of flying and never had hot brakes….i keep explaining that You can get on the brakes aggressively and stop the jet a lot shorter than most think possible, I do regularly fly a 767 into 6000-7000 ft runways, (RIC, BDL, PVD, SDF) land close to the 1000 ft markers, smooth application of brakes,full reverse.so far it’s worked well…
Nobody is talking about” smoking the brakes” 40+ years of flying and never had hot brakes….i keep explaining that You can get on the brakes aggressively and stop the jet a lot shorter than most think possible, I do regularly fly a 767 into 6000-7000 ft runways, (RIC, BDL, PVD, SDF) land close to the 1000 ft markers, smooth application of brakes,full reverse.so far it’s worked well…
But I guess the energy dissipation of striking a bread truck probably helped
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We don’t know. They didn’t either before it was too late to recover, obviously. You look at something like the Asiana triple disaster at SFO and think, how is that even remotely possible? 13 years ago now. But as all the contributing factors came to light, they painted a much different picture. Especially to those familiar with such cockpit dynamics, auto throttle function and descent momentum of heavy airliners.
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We don’t know. They didn’t either before it was too late to recover, obviously. You look at something like the Asiana triple disaster at SFO and think, how is that even remotely possible? 13 years ago now. But as all the contributing factors came to light, they painted a much different picture. Especially to those familiar with such cockpit dynamics, auto throttle function and descent momentum of heavy airliners.
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I wonder how many times a 767-400 has landed on 29 since CAL started service. My guess is that there were a lot of successful landings, and probably a few go-arounds. I would also venture to guess it’s the first time a 764 was low enough to make premature ground contact.
it was an anomaly, they will figure out what happened, and a pilot bulletin will be issued. We will all be more careful (than we already are) when landing 29. The pilots in question will probably do a dozen landing in the sim to show they can.
if you are unable, you are unable. It’s not that deep bro. What a silly argument about pilot abilities.
it was an anomaly, they will figure out what happened, and a pilot bulletin will be issued. We will all be more careful (than we already are) when landing 29. The pilots in question will probably do a dozen landing in the sim to show they can.
if you are unable, you are unable. It’s not that deep bro. What a silly argument about pilot abilities.
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I wonder how many times a 767-400 has landed on 29 since CAL started service. My guess is that there were a lot of successful landings, and probably a few go-arounds. I would also venture to guess it’s the first time a 764 was low enough to make premature ground contact.
it was an anomaly, they will figure out what happened, and a pilot bulletin will be issued. We will all be more careful (than we already are) when landing 29. The pilots in question will probably do a dozen landing in the sim to show they can.
if you are unable, you are unable. It’s not that deep bro. What a silly argument about pilot abilities.
it was an anomaly, they will figure out what happened, and a pilot bulletin will be issued. We will all be more careful (than we already are) when landing 29. The pilots in question will probably do a dozen landing in the sim to show they can.
if you are unable, you are unable. It’s not that deep bro. What a silly argument about pilot abilities.
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