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01-10-2011, 04:14 PM
#171
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Coto-
Its the company's problem. They want a better deal then they can get off their butts and come to the table. One thing I'd like to see is NO freeze for us 1437. I'm probably won't go to the CAL side because I want ORD and a 737 seat lock at CAL would keep me commuting. If they didn't want the extra training cost they shouldn't have frickin furloughed us unnecessarily to begin with.
KC
Its the company's problem. They want a better deal then they can get off their butts and come to the table. One thing I'd like to see is NO freeze for us 1437. I'm probably won't go to the CAL side because I want ORD and a 737 seat lock at CAL would keep me commuting. If they didn't want the extra training cost they shouldn't have frickin furloughed us unnecessarily to begin with.
KC
01-10-2011, 05:00 PM
#172
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KC,
If you go to Continental and quit, your freeze ends. I don't think there is much down side to taking the job and leaving if/when United calls you back. I think there may be more than a few pilots that end up going to Continental and quitting when they don't like the domicile they get(Guam). I agree with you 100% that this is the companies problem. I expect they are going to be buying a bunch of 737 type ratings for furloughed United pilots that leave quickly. I wonder if they included that cost when they decided to furlough us.
If you go to Continental and quit, your freeze ends. I don't think there is much down side to taking the job and leaving if/when United calls you back. I think there may be more than a few pilots that end up going to Continental and quitting when they don't like the domicile they get(Guam). I agree with you 100% that this is the companies problem. I expect they are going to be buying a bunch of 737 type ratings for furloughed United pilots that leave quickly. I wonder if they included that cost when they decided to furlough us.
01-10-2011, 05:16 PM
#173
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Position: B737 CAPT IAH
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Originally Posted by Coto Pilot
KC,
If you go to Continental and quit, your freeze ends. I don't think there is much down side to taking the job and leaving if/when United calls you back. I think there may be more than a few pilots that end up going to Continental and quitting when they don't like the domicile they get(Guam). I agree with you 100% that this is the companies problem. I expect they are going to be buying a bunch of 737 type ratings for furloughed United pilots that leave quickly. I wonder if they included that cost when they decided to furlough us.
If you go to Continental and quit, your freeze ends. I don't think there is much down side to taking the job and leaving if/when United calls you back. I think there may be more than a few pilots that end up going to Continental and quitting when they don't like the domicile they get(Guam). I agree with you 100% that this is the companies problem. I expect they are going to be buying a bunch of 737 type ratings for furloughed United pilots that leave quickly. I wonder if they included that cost when they decided to furlough us.
"Pilot training costs are a "sunk" cost." (Rono Dutta)
In other words, a retrospective cost that they really don't plan for. Not that I agree, but when things went haywire after 9/11 and folks were moving seat to seat, even furloughs getting trained, IOE, and furloughed a week later.....
Well, that is how UA's mgmt views pilot training costs. But I'm sure some wiz-bang at WHQ would point that they paid the furloughee less in furlough pay because of the bump/training when they went out the door. Spent 10's of thousands of dollars but in retrospect, saved 1000. Rocket scientists, one and all, at WHQ.
The one thing they look at is a 18 to 24 month furlough minimum for the most senior furlough to make it "cost effective" in their mind. So, I guess, they do look at that training cost widget somewhat. Certainly not in a manner to address your post, however.
Lee
Last edited by LeeFXDWG; 01-10-2011 at 05:20 PM. Reason: typo
09-19-2014, 09:12 AM
#174
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Originally Posted by HercAC in Sept 2010
And a much nicer crew lounge than Newark I must say.
Originally Posted by MEC Blastmail Sept 19, 2014
Non-Compliant Crew Lounges. Pilot bases in EWR, IAH and GUM currently do not have an ALPA-approved “quiet room” per the Crew Lounge settlement. These rooms were required to be completed by Sept. 5, 2014. For sits scheduled 2-4 hours in these bases, you are entitled to a day room at an approved hotel. Also, for sits in non-bases (especially DCA, FLL, MCO, MSY, SAN, SNA, TPA) of 2-4 hours, the same rule applies. Call the Hotel Desk or FODM to secure your day room prior to departing to these locations.
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09-19-2014, 02:00 PM
#176
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Originally Posted by APC225
Which still doesn't have an adequate rest facility four years later. Unreal. But there's 150 FO vacancies in today's vacancy bid, so they've got that going for them.
3.5+ years!
Well done sir!
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