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12-29-2010 | 06:03 PM
#171
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Well, I "heard" that Boeing seems to think that CAL's 78s might not be delayed much beyond the current delivery dates.... therefore, the company decided to cancel this latest bid. So everyone goes back to their previous position as indicated on the summer bid (12-03 bid). Now the speculative rumor is that there is a need for more 73 pilots that would require some hiring (UAL furloughs) to properly staff the airline, especially in light of the snowstorm debacle. Well, we'll see in the coming weeks or months what's on the next system bid.
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12-30-2010 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Cpt. Bat
Now the speculative rumor is that there is a need for more 73 pilots that would require some hiring (UAL furloughs) to properly staff the airline, especially in light of the snowstorm debacle.
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01-06-2011 | 11:31 AM
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Any new vacancies occurring on either side before the operational integration will be staffed by offering the positions first to the furloughed pilots from the airlines. Since CAL has recalled all of their furloughees, any vacancies on future CAL system bids will be offered first to United furloughed pilots in seniority order. However unlikely, should all of them bypass, the company would need to look for "off the street" hires.
01-10-2011 | 10:22 AM
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They won't all bypass. I know there is some interest piqued, and questions quietly being asked how it would all work - "loaning furloughees out" to CAL, only to have to call them back to UAL sometime soon thereafter.
01-10-2011 | 11:57 AM
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I have posted about this in the past. A United pilot gets hired at Continemtal, trained and then 6 months later recalled to United and leaves Continental creating another vacancy at Continental. Aside from "Sonny Crockett", I think most of us are still living in our old United domiciles and most would prefer to be at United with all of our seniority rights, my eleven year anniversary is next week. It's a big if, but if both companies require pilots before the SLI, this will be a nightmare for the company.
01-10-2011 | 04:14 PM
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Its the company's problem. They want a better deal then they can get off their butts and come to the table. One thing I'd like to see is NO freeze for us 1437. I'm probably won't go to the CAL side because I want ORD and a 737 seat lock at CAL would keep me commuting. If they didn't want the extra training cost they shouldn't have frickin furloughed us unnecessarily to begin with.
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Its the company's problem. They want a better deal then they can get off their butts and come to the table. One thing I'd like to see is NO freeze for us 1437. I'm probably won't go to the CAL side because I want ORD and a 737 seat lock at CAL would keep me commuting. If they didn't want the extra training cost they shouldn't have frickin furloughed us unnecessarily to begin with.
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01-10-2011 | 05:00 PM
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KC,
If you go to Continental and quit, your freeze ends. I don't think there is much down side to taking the job and leaving if/when United calls you back. I think there may be more than a few pilots that end up going to Continental and quitting when they don't like the domicile they get(Guam). I agree with you 100% that this is the companies problem. I expect they are going to be buying a bunch of 737 type ratings for furloughed United pilots that leave quickly. I wonder if they included that cost when they decided to furlough us.
If you go to Continental and quit, your freeze ends. I don't think there is much down side to taking the job and leaving if/when United calls you back. I think there may be more than a few pilots that end up going to Continental and quitting when they don't like the domicile they get(Guam). I agree with you 100% that this is the companies problem. I expect they are going to be buying a bunch of 737 type ratings for furloughed United pilots that leave quickly. I wonder if they included that cost when they decided to furlough us.
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